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New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by NotPavlovsDog »

kofejnik wrote: post #490
literallycancer wrote: post #451

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You don't have to move to the US to make 200. That's easily available for remote people. For the big bucks, moving maybe helps but it's unlikely you make it from driving Uber to 1k/hr unless you run your own business.

> That's easily available for remote people. Not easily at all, clients usually avoid working with offshore freelancers directly, and established freelance platforms tend to cap the overseas rates (because they want their cut and also clients expect offshore devs to cost much less) Or am I totally wrong here?

My experience is, as I read the job ads, they want US based remoters for the easy accounting. So at the minimum, one would have to set up a US company. At the "easiest for the employer", one would have to bill/apply and work through a US resident.

If someone has other solutions for out-of-the-US, non-US-tax-reporters to applying to US remote jobs that list "US based" as a requirement I would love to hear about it.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by NotPavlovsDog »

lmilcin wrote: post #456
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #430

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It's one of the (dirty?) pleasures in the work-life, isn't it? I still treasure getting to the stage in my life when I could afford to stop saying what my salary expectation was outside of "fair in relation to the market and my experience". Recruiter H/R: "We need to hear your salary requirements to move forward with this position". me: "I would like to hear your offer". Recruiter / HR: "We won't be able to consider…

Or, better yet, instead of sinking that negotiation 100% of the time after your last sentence, you could give obviously large sum and tell them you are open to negotiation once you had your chance to present yourself and the company present themselves. Not only this shows a little more negotiation savvy, but once in a blue moon this could give you an offer you have not expected. For example, they could just say "OK".

If you have the luxury of affording spending time on multiple interviews, very sound point!

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by NotPavlovsDog »

xyzelement wrote: post #460
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #430

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It's one of the (dirty?) pleasures in the work-life, isn't it? I still treasure getting to the stage in my life when I could afford to stop saying what my salary expectation was outside of "fair in relation to the market and my experience". Recruiter H/R: "We need to hear your salary requirements to move forward with this position". me: "I would like to hear your offer". Recruiter / HR: "We won't be able to consider…

Who do you think you are screwing by cutting off your opportunities at the root? :) As the other reply pointed out, you are cutting yourself (a) out of the conversation (b) out of finding out what your actual range is. Here's a dirty secret for you - very often the recruiters don't share the range because the range is broad, they may fill the role with a mid-level or a super-senior at 2x the comp. If they tell you th…

> Who do you think you are screwing by cutting off your opportunities at the root? :)

Which would that be, if you have multiple offers, where they name the first number, and then you offer them the opportunity to bid higher against each other?

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by NotPavlovsDog »

kelp wrote: post #481
mszcz wrote: post #472

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> because the range is broad You make it sound like if they don't tell you what the range is, they are somehow doing you a favor. No, if they don't tell you the range it's not because they're nice or whatever, but because they're trying to get you to sign on for the lowest amount possible. If you hear the range is larger than what you were expecting, you're gonna try to hit that upper bound. Both positions are unders…

In California they are legally required to tell you the range if you ask.

Would you happen to know if this is a) for california-based employers, regardless of seeker status b) for california-based job seekers only?

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by wincy »

garretraziel wrote: post #431
headmelted wrote: post #416

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Good grief do I ever work in the wrong part of the world. I’m well established in my career (and I don’t have SV costs of living to be fair) - but anywhere even in the galaxy of $200 an hour would be life-changing for me.

I work as a Senior Software Engineer for big international corporation in the 2nd world country and $45/hour would be life-changing for me and most of the people I know.

I live in the US in a metro of less than 2 million, and my very first contract job as a self-taught developer who barely knew JavaScript was $45/hour. The guy didn’t even blink when I asked for that much. It was life changing for me too, going from desktop support to doing dev work.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by tal8d »

astrange wrote: post #334
A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #252

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I would buy that. Speaking of generalizations, can we just all agree that all HR people are bad people and a pox upon this land?

Surely the ones that run your payroll and 401k benefits are okay.

Maybe it is because I've never worked in the valley, but I can't think of a positive 401k plan experience. I do remember a lot of onboarding powerpoint with regards to penalties and limitations. The whole thing feels coercive, having to participate in the market when you aren't interested in managing the position - simply to protect your savings from intentionally set inflation rates. All those "unsophisticated investors" (no joke, that is what they call you) are arguably the cause of the dot-com bubble as well, not because people were daytrading pets.com, but because fund managers had to put that surge of disinterested capital somewhere. I imagine that if powerpoint was around back in the day, the guys managing company store credit schemes would have functioned much like today's HR reps.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by darth_avocado »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #321
spicybright wrote: post #207

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I genuinely feel bad for talented people that get suckered into deals like this. Obviously some do if recruiters try and do this.

Being slightly underpaid is a great lifehack, but only if your bosses know it. Less stress, more work/life balance. Let people work themselves to the bone for 30% more money. That isn't for me.

This is accurate, only if you're say underpaid by 20-30%. In my experience, a lot of high stress jobs pay way more than that. Otherwise attrition is a problem. Golden handcuffs aint cheap.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by raverbashing »

astrange wrote: post #326
jimbob45 wrote: post #314

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Salaries on HN are the new penis sizes on Reddit. Everyone is 15+ inches and making six figures minimum and if you're not, you're pathetic and are getting taken advantage of.

Well, if you live in SFBA the interns are making six figures (equivalent per hour). Everyone's still living in a studio apartment though.

Six figures, 10+ hours a day (including all meals at the FAANGPlex) but having to live in bunk beds if they want a rent under 4 digits.

Not a very healthy situation, even now with everybody WFH

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by moron4hire »

lmilcin wrote: post #54
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #9

This is an encouraging move. My secondhand understanding was that Intel was losing top talent due to pressure to pay closer to median industry compensation. Top engineers recognized they were underpaid and left the company. I've been part of a similar downhill slide at a smaller company in the billion dollar revenue range. To be blunt, once the [mediocre] MBAs start realizing that the engineers are getting paid more…

I left Intel years ago to get almost 3x the salary as a software developer at... a bank. At Intel engineers are paid supposedly similar rates at similar levels and similar locations. And given my level (two levels above Senior Developer) I estimate I was paid better than at least 90% engineers. Where I worked in R&D the doors were constantly revolving and many people admitted they wait to register enough of prestigio…

> I left Intel years ago to get almost 3x the salary as a software developer at... a bank.

That is... downright absurd. God, it's enough to make one wonder where we'd all be if Intel weren't asleep at the wheel.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by junipertea »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #384
stephencanon wrote: post #104

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$45/hr is about what I was paid as a grad-student intern at Apple ... 15 years ago.

Tell me if I'm calculating this incorrectly. $45 * 8 (hours a day) * 22 (days a month) * 12 (months) = $95k You were getting paid the equivalent of $95k/year as an intern??

Interns don't stay for a whole year, but yeah, this is typical internship salary (it might have gone to 55+ now) at FAANG.
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