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Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by giantg2 »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #387
giantg2 wrote: post #202

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I hate my job for reasons other than the pay. I just have to except that I'm worthless.

Noooooooo! You may be undervalued, or in the wrong field. Einstein was not an accomplished baker- you might just not have found something you feel you fit into. It might also be impostor syndrome- please don't devalue yourself because you don't like your job or what you do there. Your job doesn't define you.

It might not define me, but it greatly defines the options of my life (time, money, etc).

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by imtringued »

ryanmercer wrote: post #432
headmelted wrote: post #416

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Good grief do I ever work in the wrong part of the world. I’m well established in my career (and I don’t have SV costs of living to be fair) - but anywhere even in the galaxy of $200 an hour would be life-changing for me.

Shoot, the $45 an hour mentioned up this chain would be life changing for me (yes, I live in the U.S.), after 15 years at my job I make 17.26 an hour. It's why this talk of $15 minimum wage mildly terrifies me, I know people need it but man, it suddenly thrusts me nearly to minimum wage (minimum wage is currently 7.25 here).

The problem with minimum wages is that they don't do anything. There is a mild psychological effect that forces people below minimum wage to find a new job. However, if the economy doesn't have enough jobs above minimum wage, then it does nothing.

If the government offered jobs at the minimum wage there would be an effective price floor for wages. Better yet, if those government workers spend their income they can drive economic demand which ends up creating jobs above minimum wage. Eventually every job pays more than minimum wage and nobody is dependent on the jobs guarantee.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by rswail »

ryanmercer wrote: post #432
headmelted wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good grief do I ever work in the wrong part of the world. I’m well established in my career (and I don’t have SV costs of living to be fair) - but anywhere even in the galaxy of $200 an hour would be life-changing for me.

Shoot, the $45 an hour mentioned up this chain would be life changing for me (yes, I live in the U.S.), after 15 years at my job I make 17.26 an hour. It's why this talk of $15 minimum wage mildly terrifies me, I know people need it but man, it suddenly thrusts me nearly to minimum wage (minimum wage is currently 7.25 here).

You should see an increase in your wage when the minimum goes to $15. A rising tide lifts all boats. Inflation is virtually zero, so rising wages are a good thing for the vast majority of wage and salary earning employees.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by imtringued »

wikibob wrote: post #303
flyinglizard wrote: post #286

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What if I told you that, more often than not, you could do your current work and get much more money? People, especially tech people, are quite awful at extracting their full value.

Fully agree. For some reason people assume that you get paid more in order to deal with less interesting work or a worse work environment. This is completely false. You get paid more when the company values you more. The company values you more, when they make more from what you are able to contribute, on average. Highly paid engineering work environments are strongly correlated with interesting work and with good wo…

Game studios pay their developers poorly, precisely because there is a flood of people who find that type of work interesting. I'm doing a "boring" job and I get paid more than a game developer.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by angus_gh »

ryanmercer wrote: post #432
headmelted wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good grief do I ever work in the wrong part of the world. I’m well established in my career (and I don’t have SV costs of living to be fair) - but anywhere even in the galaxy of $200 an hour would be life-changing for me.

Shoot, the $45 an hour mentioned up this chain would be life changing for me (yes, I live in the U.S.), after 15 years at my job I make 17.26 an hour. It's why this talk of $15 minimum wage mildly terrifies me, I know people need it but man, it suddenly thrusts me nearly to minimum wage (minimum wage is currently 7.25 here).

You can feel secure knowing if you lost your job, any other job you find would at worst pay $2.26 less than you're receiving now, so you wouldn't suffer an awful drop in living standards (and you'd hope it would also pressure your employer to give you a raise..)

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by 0xTJ »

cbozeman wrote: post #171
hobofan wrote: post #115

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Damn, that whole comment section is an amazing time capsule of sentiment regarding Microsoft and other tech companies! Well worth a read.

This comment is amazing... "Microsoft recently came to my graduate school to recruit for user experience design and user experience research positions. 10 folks out of my program (about 25% of us) scored and interview. Every single one of us had no intention of working for Microsoft and joked about it intensely. Microsoft had be relegated to the realm of other boring places to do our type of work but that you intervi…

That's interesting with the Surfaces. I have many friends who had/have older models, both the Book and the non-Books. They all ended up having terrible experiences.

You know which ones still have them, because on Zoom calls, they'll occasionally have their audio sound like a demon trying to murder them very loudly.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by rswail »

People commenting on this topic need to understand the concept of Purchasing Power Parity [1]. A common example from The Economist is the Big Mac Index that compares the cost of a Big Mac in different economies, converted to USD.

One way of comparing your own purchasing power is to take a basket of goods and services that you use, including rent, power, local taxes (as an indication of local government services) and convert that to how long you have to work to earn that money, net of federal taxes.

People earn a lot of raw money in SV/FAANG but the cost of living is very high and the lifestyle of SV and surrounds may not be what you enjoy.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by protomyth »

rswail wrote: post #443
ryanmercer wrote: post #432

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shoot, the $45 an hour mentioned up this chain would be life changing for me (yes, I live in the U.S.), after 15 years at my job I make 17.26 an hour. It's why this talk of $15 minimum wage mildly terrifies me, I know people need it but man, it suddenly thrusts me nearly to minimum wage (minimum wage is currently 7.25 here).

You should see an increase in your wage when the minimum goes to $15. A rising tide lifts all boats. Inflation is virtually zero, so rising wages are a good thing for the vast majority of wage and salary earning employees.

I would love to see you prove that with actual labor statistics. Employers do not do that, plus now you need to deal with higher prices.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by imtringued »

munk-a wrote: post #204
giantg2 wrote: post #152

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I have a salary that would work our to less than $45/hr, with extra hours dragging it down further.

Most people do - but don't hesitate to put more value in your labour and look for other career opportunities. The world is pretty unjust at a basic level and if you're waiting for someone to acknowledge your excellence and land a big payday in your lap you'll be waiting for a long time. A big piece of career advice I have for any folks that feel like they're in dead-ends or are just getting started is that, in modern…

>Most people do - but don't hesitate to put more value in your labour and look for other career opportunities. The world is pretty unjust at a basic level and if you're waiting for someone to acknowledge your excellence and land a big payday in your lap you'll be waiting for a long time.

It is also economically inefficient. If you are worth $100k/y and you sell yourself for $50k/y then you are basically doing charity for your company. If you really cared about charity you would ask for the higher salary and then donate the money yourself. What really happens is that you are keeping an economically inefficient company alive. That's not just bad for you but also for the economy as a whole because your "talents" are being wasted.

>Oh and we're all super lucky to be in tech because in a lot of other fields there is just no way to advance yourself.

It's the opposite. Low skill jobs are drying up. Most of them are going overseas. Getting a high skilled job is not luck, developed countries are restructuring their economies to specialize in high skilled jobs.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Post by imtringued »

jimbob45 wrote: post #314
stephencanon wrote: post #104

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$45/hr is about what I was paid as a grad-student intern at Apple ... 15 years ago.

Salaries on HN are the new penis sizes on Reddit. Everyone is 15+ inches and making six figures minimum and if you're not, you're pathetic and are getting taken advantage of.

Well, if you subscribe to the idea that at least some of those jobs could be done remotely then it would not be that far from the truth.
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