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New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

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Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

#11

This sounds like a placed PR statement.

> He also a lead microarchitect for Intel’s i960 CA .. Expect PR to be better written from Intel.

This is a fluff piece, which looks like it (perhaps intentionally) should buoy INTC share price. I suspect it's fluffy partially from a fanboi author, and partially to keep in Intel's good graces.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

#13
post #5

Architect (singular) and Gelsinger didn't rehire - his move back as CEO was a factor in the individual concerned's decision to rejoin. Pretty disappointing headline from Anandtech.

Yeah I tend to agree with you.

They did say right at the end: As we can see, Pat is already having an effect before his name is even on the door at HQ.

But the way I read this headline, it kinda sounds like Pat actively rehired folk.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

#14

This is an encouraging move. My secondhand understanding was that Intel was losing top talent due to pressure to pay closer to median industry compensation. Top engineers recognized they were underpaid and left the company. I've been part of a similar downhill slide at a smaller company in the billion dollar revenue range. To be blunt, once the [mediocre] MBAs start realizing that the engineers are getting paid more…

> My secondhand understanding was that Intel was losing top talent due to pressure to pay closer to median industry compensation. Top engineers recognized they were underpaid and left the company.

This is what happens when you're run by bean counters who don't understand your core business or industry.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

#15

This sounds like a placed PR statement.

> He also a lead microarchitect for Intel’s i960 CA .. Expect PR to be better written from Intel. This is a fluff piece, which looks like it (perhaps intentionally) should buoy INTC share price. I suspect it's fluffy partially from a fanboi author, and partially to keep in Intel's good graces.

Relevant article: http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

#16
post #5

Architect (singular) and Gelsinger didn't rehire - his move back as CEO was a factor in the individual concerned's decision to rejoin. Pretty disappointing headline from Anandtech.

Yeah I tend to agree with you. They did say right at the end: As we can see, Pat is already having an effect before his name is even on the door at HQ. But the way I read this headline, it kinda sounds like Pat actively rehired folk.

It's a nice story and good for Intel that can attract a talented ex designer back - but the overdoing of the title is unnecessary and counterproductive.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

#17
post #6

It appears INTC is serious about correcting the wrongs and doing it right. I’d be worried if I am Lisa Su at AMD.

Err. shouldn't the real competitors be viewed as ARM and M1?

Both. Intel has really found itself in a pickle. After years of stagnation, it has serious competition from

* AMD

* NVIDIA+ARM

* and now Apple

Intel will have to hustle for 5 years at least to catch up.

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

#19
post #14

This is an encouraging move. My secondhand understanding was that Intel was losing top talent due to pressure to pay closer to median industry compensation. Top engineers recognized they were underpaid and left the company. I've been part of a similar downhill slide at a smaller company in the billion dollar revenue range. To be blunt, once the [mediocre] MBAs start realizing that the engineers are getting paid more…

> My secondhand understanding was that Intel was losing top talent due to pressure to pay closer to median industry compensation. Top engineers recognized they were underpaid and left the company. This is what happens when you're run by bean counters who don't understand your core business or industry.

In the same/similar vein it never ceases to amaze me how employers don't provide their employees with the best tools possible (within reason) to do their jobs. A company will give a developer a low/mid-range laptop/desktop pinching every penny they can then turn around any pay them a huge salary... Like do they not understand that running into RAM/CPU limits makes the developer less effective? I've had jobs where I've easily spent 10x the cost of the better components/computer in time waiting on company-issued computer. Very penny wise and pound foolish.

EDIT:

Two stories that still annoy me to this day:

1. We had been complaining about our slow machines for a while and my PM told me to write up a proposal to send to his boss for new parts. Which, side note, was the last time I went out of my way to /beg/ for equipment to do my job better. Anyway, I write up an email with the reasoning for why we needed new hard drives (SSD's, we were still on spinning rust) and/or more RAM (I think we had ~16GB but we were running VMs). I explained how each part would help and even found cheap versions of both online that would be sufficient for our needs (we are talking 2. The company was going to buy the developers new machines (finally) and they were testing out various machines (with hardly any input from the developers). All of the developers (4, this wasn't a huge company) had personal Macs they used for meetings/WFH (we only had desktops from work) but the company refused to even consider buying Macs because someone up the chain had a vendetta against Macs. They were looking at crappy laptops that cost the same or more than the MBP's we all wanted but it a complete no-go. This was also the company where I used my personal MBP for work (with begrudging approval) because it was way better than the Dell desktop they gave me (to run Linux on). What made it infuriating was we did cross-platform development (iOS/Android) but I was the only team member who could build/test the iOS builds because I had a Mac. The company provided an old cheese grater Mac Pro (pre-trashcan) that couldn't even be updated to a new enough OS to build apps that could be submitted to Apple...

Re: New Intel CEO rehiring retired CPU architects

#20

They've probably lost[1] few months ago their most talented chips engineer, Jim Keller[2]. Ironically, Jim suggested to outsource the manufacturing of their chips, what the new CEO just did [3]. [1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/15846/jim-keller-resigns-from... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer) [3] https://www.extremetech.com/computing/319301-report-intel-wi...

Your [3] is (still) a rumour, and although signs of it have been around since at least July 2020, this has not been confirmed nor would I qualify it as 'something their new CEO just did' as it has been talked about by their current CEO as well.
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