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He will probably start a company.
Who in their right mind would work for him?
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So, you're saying it either means "white power" or "we're trolling people to think we mean 'white power'"? As for white power not being associated with anything heinous, yeah "Hail victory" also sounds good. Who doesn't want victory?
The whole thing was started as a deliberate meme by /pol/ to take an innocent, commonly used hand signal and make the left treat it as a white supremacist dogwhistle. So it can mean anything ranging from "ok" to "this will make the libs angry" to "I am an actual nazi among like minded friends". Which one it is must be discerned from context, meaning that the symbol itself is largely meaningless.
Except using as 'this will make libs crazy' means the speaker is still intentionally and loudly embracing racism & racists, even if not their primary aim. So it is a symbol of two forms of racism: direct and supporting. Important to not give racists a free pass just because they are clever, delusional, or are a part of some popular political coalition.
The sedition just happened, and it was because of exactly this kind of manipulative messaging by the same exact people. Breitbart's former editor Bannon even came out of hiding for helping with the riot's speeches and got a pardon in return. I'm hoping that will have been the last straw for most people for tolerating racist double talk and those promoting it.
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#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
Snowden is earnest, so he won't get one. Assange won't, because Donnie doesn't think he'll be useful again.
Assange has a knack for getting his hands on a lot of dirt. Trump is arrogant and short-sighted enough to believe it will never be dirt on him?
Yes, he is.
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#355Seems the comments here are mostly negative — saying his pardon is an example of corruption and that he should be in jail. Personally, I think that the ability for gigantic corporations' ability to not only sue their former employees or influence justice to get them thrown in jail by the government is a much bigger problem. And generally I feel like prison sentences for white-collar and non-violent crime is in almost…
I’m not really interested in seeing Levandowski sent to jail either. People like him are a menace to society and shouldn’t be allowed to operate companies or deploy capital. Society blesses individuals with the privilege to form a company and in exchange those company officers are expected to make a net positive contribution to society. Jobs, investment, progress. If you fail to do that — through stealing, fraud, cor…
OK, but so many people go to prison for theft of much, much less. Why shouldn't he face at least that much justice?
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#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
What if the president pardoned literally... everybody. I wonder what would happen. Maybe he got drunk and wrote something down and handed it to somebody. It's such a simple action, nobody can stop it, he can't take it back when he comes to his senses. Would the system even respond to it? Would they just open all the federal prisons?
Pardons don't work like that. They have to actually be delivered to the recipient to be effective. Pardoning everybody would be a massive printing and mailing operation.
"On January 21, 1977, U.S. President Jimmy Carter grants an unconditional pardon to hundreds of thousands of men who evaded the draft during the Vietnam War."
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The most interesting pardons are the no name ones. Pardoned restaurant chain fraud for an italian not even charged in NY. Sounds like mafia related crime to me. The other no name money laundering criminals are all related to either his gambling businesses or his place of living in Florida. He's basically pardoning people he's been doing crimes with for a long time and then if course some big names. I'm happy to see s…
Many pardons are recommended to the President by the Justice department for various reasons. A lot are for non-violent drug crimes that someone in the department felt was too harsh/etc... It's not like they are all Trump's friends. But obviously conspiracy theories will prevail, sadly.
>Many pardons are recommended to the President by the Justice department for various reasons
Most Trump's pardons bypassed DOJ.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/trumps-circumvention-justice-dep...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/most-clemency-...
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#358It's important to note the reason the President has the power to pardon anyone for any reason is it's one of the checks and balances, the Constitution is full of them. It's meant as a check to blunt overzealous prosecutions. Note that the President does not have the corresponding power to convict anyone. An interesting set of pardons was when Andrew Johnson pardoned all the rebels in the Confederacy, including Jeffer…
As a foreigner Presidential pardons + the appointment (and life terms) of Supreme Court judges baffle me. How can a country that claims to be a leader in democracy have these two wildly abused bugs? Edit: fixed use of election instead of appointment
As an American, I agree with everything you said. (Well, except that Supreme Court justices are appointed, not elected.)
The other gaping flaw is the systemic, undemocratic bias that determines the makeup of our Upper House.
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#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "ok" hand sign isn't a white power sign just because some people have decided it to be. It's meant ok since as long as anyone can remember. I'm not willing to accept I can't say okay now because some liberal thinkers have decided that that's now become racist. People need to lighten up a bit and not make everything an affront.
Some of the comments below are rather heated. I’d like to quote an excerpt from the Anti-Defamation League’s page on the “ok” sign. [1] I think it is a reasonable take that acknowledges the validity of the perspectives posted here. Context is important. > Use of the okay symbol in most contexts is entirely innocuous and harmless. > In 2017, the “okay” hand gesture acquired a new and different significance thanks to a…
Thank you for injecting some sanity in this sub thread.
Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned
#360It's important to note the reason the President has the power to pardon anyone for any reason is it's one of the checks and balances, the Constitution is full of them. It's meant as a check to blunt overzealous prosecutions. Note that the President does not have the corresponding power to convict anyone. An interesting set of pardons was when Andrew Johnson pardoned all the rebels in the Confederacy, including Jeffer…
> It's meant as a check to blunt overzealous prosecutions. But aren't prosecutions done by the DoJ, as part of the executive branch, i.e. the decision to prosecute someone at all, or whether to offer a plea deal is already under the president's control?
...by previous administrations.