If Ma wanted to reappear and reassure people, not sure this would be his first choice, method, etc. It seems weirder to just pop up like this like nothing has been going on.
It's part of Jack Ma Foundation's annual Rural Educators Award. A few more pictures: https://tech.ifeng.com/c/83BS98wwWV9 Here's one from 2020. http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/07/c_138685262.htm Old UN article. https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/blog/2016/08/jack-...
Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Total bullshit. This is the CCP stepping on this man's throat.
You certainly don't understand 低调 and 闷声赚大钱. Ma learnt and adapted.
Re: Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet
#53> In the 50-second video, Ma, dressed in a navy pullover, spoke directly to the camera from a room with grey marble walls and a striped carpet. It was not clear from the video or the Tianmu News article where he was speaking from. Uh, resurfacing from a fancy prison cell, perhaps? Can anyone find the video? EDIT: Here's the raw video: https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/13517514568277196... . If you watch his…
This regime is no joke. We need to offer Hong Kong and Chinese citizens a fast and easy path to citizenship in the West. If we do not brain drain China, rehabilitate our manufacturing capability, and prevent the CCP's rise to global dominance, we'll all have our liberties threatened. It could start with an offer to Jack Ma. Offer for him to move to SF or Miami. Watch for the "ha, ha, no thanks", but see the impact it…
The CEO of a $600B global publicly traded company disappeared for several months. This does not explicitly mean that he was detained, but it should be a point of concern.
Imagine the outcry if this happened to an American CEO with controversial political opinions (there are a lot of them, so take your pick).
Re: Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet
#54> In the 50-second video, Ma, dressed in a navy pullover, spoke directly to the camera from a room with grey marble walls and a striped carpet. It was not clear from the video or the Tianmu News article where he was speaking from. Uh, resurfacing from a fancy prison cell, perhaps? Can anyone find the video? EDIT: Here's the raw video: https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/13517514568277196... . If you watch his…
Re: Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
A Chinese person's perspective about China and its politics/government on HN/Reddit? Enjoy the following classics: 1) you're brainwashed. 2) how do you justify the human rights violations? 3) you're a CCP shill 4) Would you publicly curse Xi and denounce the CCP? Good luck!
He could very well be from the 50 Cent Party. HN has no doubt been infiltrated by them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
The CCP is truly all powerful!
If my dripping sarcasm wasn’t clear, you’re way off base here.
Edit 1: to the downvoters, please feel free to explain why it’s appropriate to accuse a 12-year HN member of being a paid shill for the CCP when all evidence points to the contrary.
Re: Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet
#56> In the 50-second video, Ma, dressed in a navy pullover, spoke directly to the camera from a room with grey marble walls and a striped carpet. It was not clear from the video or the Tianmu News article where he was speaking from. Uh, resurfacing from a fancy prison cell, perhaps? Can anyone find the video? EDIT: Here's the raw video: https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/13517514568277196... . If you watch his…
How much more mental gymnastics do we need? I think it's time to accept that he WASN'T jailed rather than trying to forcefully shoehorn the facts into a 'but China still bad' narrative. The HN commentary went from 'Jack Ma is a national security threat' to 'Jack Ma is a poor victim of the CCP will will never be seen again' to 'this is fake, he is still jailed'. If he shows up someone else in person next time, will pe…
I mean, saying that:
> Many people see the Chinese govt's deficiencies as a result of "evil". I don't really subscribe to that. I think it has more to do with "incompetence". Building a large organization, with the right culture, is hard.
is kind of ridiculous. Would you say the same thing about the Soviets (with their Gulags) or Nazis (with their death camps)? I mean, literal genocide [2] is not just "incompetence". It's something far more malevolent. And talking about "building the right culture" sounds like Silicon Valley startup-babble, and seems wholly inadequate as a response to the magnitude of surveillance and oppression in China [3].
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_China
Re: Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
A Chinese person's perspective about China and its politics/government on HN/Reddit? Enjoy the following classics: 1) you're brainwashed. 2) how do you justify the human rights violations? 3) you're a CCP shill 4) Would you publicly curse Xi and denounce the CCP? Good luck!
He could very well be from the 50 Cent Party. HN has no doubt been infiltrated by them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
Re: Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
How much more mental gymnastics do we need? I think it's time to accept that he WASN'T jailed rather than trying to forcefully shoehorn the facts into a 'but China still bad' narrative. The HN commentary went from 'Jack Ma is a national security threat' to 'Jack Ma is a poor victim of the CCP will will never be seen again' to 'this is fake, he is still jailed'. If he shows up someone else in person next time, will pe…
I read his comments, and have studied Chinese and China for years. While he took a pretty slight risk, (it seems) he only criticized other business owners and potential regulatory ideas. Honestly, his comments were so mild that you'd probably regularly hear similar stuff _coming from the regulators themselves_ in most other countries (developed or no). I'm not sure where on HN you found the sentiment Jack Ma was cons…
During the HN submission about Ant's IPO, before it was halted. For example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24910410 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24906771
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#59In the last Hacker News thread, people were so sure that the government jailed him for criticizing the party. Even though there was no evidence of such, people just assumed it MUST be true because the CCP MUST be evil. And before Jack Ma "disappeared", people were worried about Jack Ma and Ant Group being a national security threat, because of his ties with CCP. Because "CCP evil". No matter the facts, people just co…
A lot of people are not interested in understanding or cooperation when it comes to China. They want a confrontation so much that they would rather entertain completely made up speculation (it is a deep fake, recorded from prison ...) than something rooted in actual reality. I think it sticks deep and it leads us, the west, down a dark path.
Banking is a regulated industry in all parts of the world as modern fractional banking is essential a form of legalised pyramid scheme. If it is not regulated will inevitable oscillate and collapse.
That Ant Financial need to be regulated like bank, rather than any other company, naturally follows from the nature of its business.
The regulative crackdown on it would have happened in any other country as well. Maybe not in exactly the same manner but in substance.
Re: Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet
#60In the last Hacker News thread, people were so sure that the government jailed him for criticizing the party. Even though there was no evidence of such, people just assumed it MUST be true because the CCP MUST be evil. And before Jack Ma "disappeared", people were worried about Jack Ma and Ant Group being a national security threat, because of his ties with CCP. Because "CCP evil". No matter the facts, people just co…
A lot of people are not interested in understanding or cooperation when it comes to China. They want a confrontation so much that they would rather entertain completely made up speculation (it is a deep fake, recorded from prison ...) than something rooted in actual reality. I think it sticks deep and it leads us, the west, down a dark path.