Jack Ma makes first live appearance in three months in online meet

This is not true.

This regime is no joke.

We need to offer Hong Kong and Chinese citizens a fast and easy path to citizenship in the West.

If we do not brain drain China, rehabilitate our manufacturing capability, and prevent the CCP's rise to global dominance, we'll all have our liberties threatened.

It could start with an offer to Jack Ma. Offer for him to move to SF or Miami. Watch for the "ha, ha, no thanks", but see the impact it has on Chinese citizens. They're not stupid, and they know what's going on.

Edit:

1. Brain drain. Adopt China's best, brightest, and most creative.

2. Culture war. Tell Disney it's time to stop being cozy and make a "Chernobyl" style film about Tiananmen, Uyghurs, Tibetans, et al.

3. Build up our global manufacture. Vietnam, India, Mexico, Africa, South America.

4. Build capacity domestically, especially for strategic needs. Build lots of factories on the border. Jobs programs. But also allow immigrant workers and provide a path to citizenship.

5. Commit to our strong allies in a trade pact. Europe, Japan, Korea...

We can route out this evil. But we have to work hard. This is an existential crisis.

The US and its allies should all be on board with this plan and commit to doing similarly.

Disappointingly paranoid comments jumping to conclusions here. It's equally possible that Ma's disappearance is self-imposed after making an out of character speech that was not well received by investors and regulators alike. We don't know either way at this point. To quote Leo Lewis of the FT: "His miscalculation now looks spectacular, even by his astral standards of showmanship." [1]

1. https://www.ft.com/content/b3a94f55-5e44-417f-a869-a542d0527...

Total bullshit.

This is the CCP stepping on this man's throat.

In the last Hacker News thread, people were so sure that the government jailed him for criticizing the party. Even though there was no evidence of such, people just assumed it MUST be true because the CCP MUST be evil.

And before Jack Ma "disappeared", people were worried about Jack Ma and Ant Group being a national security threat, because of his ties with CCP. Because "CCP evil". No matter the facts, people just conveniently change their interpretation to shoehorn everything in a nonsensical "see, CCP is evil" narrative.

I think it's time to accept that most people have a SERIOUSLY deranged and inaccurate view of China, and that things in China are far more complex and nuanced than people give it credit for. I say this as someone who's born in China, and have a Chinese wife, and family in China. Maybe there's an alternative point of view than "CCP is evil" that is at least just as valid.

So it turns out he was just laying low after all. Yes his comments were not appreciated, but that doesn't mean they jail anyone for the slightest criticism. The reason why his comments upset people is because China, after having experienced a huge boom in material wealth in the 2000s, which accompanied mass government corruption and increase in inequality, China is now in a phase with more focus on equality and sharing the wealth. Jack's criticism hit a nerve because it came over as a rich man trying to change society for his own benefit, rather than lifting society with him.

See Cyrus Janssen's blog post about this: https://cyrusjanssen.substack.com/p/trump-free-speech-and-wh... Cyrus is an expat who has worked in China for 12 years.

Does China have problems? Of course it does. But that doesn't mean we need to villify it at every turn, and interpret everything in the worst possible manner in the absence of evidence.

When the west better understands China, and when the west and China come together, the whole world wins.