Capitol Attack Was Months in the Making on Facebook

Post by aerosmile » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 12:15 AM UTC

Barrin92 wrote: post #399

whoknew1122 wrote: post #266

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Far-right terrorism in the US has never really been taken seriously. No one took them seriously. Until the Capitol was attacked. The Feds are starting to roll up high ranking militia members, so hopefully they learned their lesson this time.

another thing that immediately came to mind after the capitol rioting was the standoff with Cliven Bundy and an article I saw a few years ago[1]. I even remembered that at the time there were people on Fox who were downplaying this as some sort of patriotic resistance against the government. Imagine if someone started a caliphate on US territory, I'm sure we'd be hearing the same kind of arguments /s "Cliven Bundy an…

Post by chrononaut » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 12:15 AM UTC

colpabar wrote: post #397

tareqak wrote: post #181

I had a thought that came about as a result of this post and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25836503 both being on the HN front page at around roughly the same time I perused HN. The thought is: why is GitHub so fast at taking down a potentially infringing code repository in response to a DMCA request but Google, Facebook, Twitter et al. so slow at taking down violence-promoting content?

Money. Isn't it obvious? Github was facing a legitimate financial threat, and Facebook probably isn't. Facebook will suffer no real consequences, and everyone will forget about their newfound moral position that censorship is for the greater good of society and continue to use Facebook.

Post by nostromo » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 12:16 AM UTC

vkou wrote: post #425

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The rush to call the storming of the capitol terrorism is really misplaced. By adopting words like "terrorism" you're paving the way for an overreaching response from lawmakers and law enforcement -- something that will likely end up being used against a cause you might support, like BLM. Firstly, nobody was terrorized. No, this wasn't "our 9/11." I doubt it'll even be a topic of conversation in a few years, just lik…

The violence and property damage wasn't the problem. Democracies can survive some broken windows, stolen laptops, and yes, even people getting hurt and killed at a protest. This sort of thing has happened for decades and centuries. What they can't survive is groups of thugs that don't like the result of an election, and go off to physically prevent its results from being honored. That is unprecedented.

Post by King-Aaron » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 12:19 AM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #421

whoknew1122 wrote: post #266

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Far-right terrorism in the US has never really been taken seriously. No one took them seriously. Until the Capitol was attacked. The Feds are starting to roll up high ranking militia members, so hopefully they learned their lesson this time.

The rush to call the storming of the capitol terrorism is really misplaced. By adopting words like "terrorism" you're paving the way for an overreaching response from lawmakers and law enforcement -- something that will likely end up being used against a cause you might support, like BLM. Firstly, nobody was terrorized. No, this wasn't "our 9/11." I doubt it'll even be a topic of conversation in a few years, just lik…

Post by pbourke » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 12:19 AM UTC

gamblor956 wrote: post #365

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Who, that little group or 70 million Americans? What are we talking about here.

We are talking about the little group of seditionists, trying so desperately hard to convince people that a larger group agrees with their goals or their tactics. 70 million people cast a vote based on political affiliations. And their side lost, and they accepted that. The commonality with the seditionists ends there.