She's been released it seems, but has been "Censored by the state of Florida until further notice." according to her twitter feed.
Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
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Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
As shown by the well known bastion of unbiased, neutral, apolitical news... Breitbart . Quite honestly this looks like a toxic, bigoted individual. I'm absolutely unsurprised that some organizations choose not to do business with him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benjamin
So, you don't like him, but that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech which is the point I'm making. This sort of behavior is toxic to society at large, and so are the implications. I'm glad your political views are of the correct sort....today. Oh, wikipedia.
If you become a public figure based on a toxicity and bigotry businesses may not want to be associated with you.
Patreon is not a bank. Patreon didn't even exist a few years ago. They are a middle man to collect money using other middle men. They don't even have a monopoly on this.
This person is also not a US citizen.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#183>After she was fired, Jones started her own online COVID-19 dashboard. But she said Saturday that she may no longer be allowed access to computers, the internet or other electronic devices as a condition of her release from jail pending trial. In the modern day, with so much that is online or involving computers, this should be considered unjust punishment, the likes of which should be reserved only for child moleste…
If she were providing a bogus view of the pandemic, there could be consequences for public health. That doesn't seem to actually be the case as far as I can tell, but the magnitude of the punishment seems about right for the alleged crime.
If this were the case, the whole Trump Administration and most Republican governors would be getting decades in jail.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about blacklisting people from monetary/financial services such as banks and credit card co's based on their political views? That goes even further. https://spectator.us/topic/financial-blacklisting-sargon-akk... https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/02/27/financial-blacklis...
People were banned from financial services for growing weed and being sex workers, largely at the request of the right. And now the right is complaining this is coming back to them.
The equivalent would be advocating for "growing weed and being sex workers".
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Pedantically pointing out that, literally, this is a false statement. My statement is so generic as to be true in the context of fields involving scientific research. And that's in essence the point: that's what data science is in the end. This isn't an attempt to incense those with Data Scientist in their job title or job description, but it's why so many STEM folks can easily find homes in Data Science without fo…
Not really, I don’t think all her research involved gathering and communicating relevant insights. There’s lots of other parts of research. Also, data science is a sort of generic term and trying to generalize to any form of common characteristics is not very productive. I’m not aware of any certified curricula for data science or accreditation bodies so it’s kind of a marketing label assigned to everything from boot…
> Not really, I don’t think all her research involved gathering and communicating relevant insights. There’s lots of other parts of research.
But that is, in fact, the definition of research ("the systematic investigation into and study of materials and sources in order to establish facts and reach new conclusions") and the publication of research findings fits the definition of communication.
I guess my point is: if you're going to be pedantic on the internet, you should consider whether it's worth your time defending your own contribution. I've got no qualms defending the idea that Rebekah Jones is a data scientist.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
As shown by the well known bastion of unbiased, neutral, apolitical news... Breitbart . Quite honestly this looks like a toxic, bigoted individual. I'm absolutely unsurprised that some organizations choose not to do business with him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Benjamin
So, you don't like him, but that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech which is the point I'm making. This sort of behavior is toxic to society at large, and so are the implications. I'm glad your political views are of the correct sort....today. Oh, wikipedia.
> that has nothing to do with the principle of banning people from society based on legal speech
Your comment is bizarre and nonsensical. No one has been "banned from society" based on "legal speech", a meaningless phrase.
A lot of people have been banned from using specific internet services because they used them to make threats of violence, or to tell dangerous lies about COVID.
This isn't "banning them from society". Get a grip!
Also, we are talking two classes of people here:
* people who work against humanity to spread COVID-19 based on a pack of obvious lies
* people who wish to violently overthrow the elected US government based on a pack of obvious lies
and frankly, these people can get fucked. They are destroying the country and the planet, and they deserve every single penalty the law can give them.
If private corporations, which Republicans claim to love, use their perfectly legal power to stop doing business with horrible psychopaths, then good for them.
One side went crazy, and now we have to choose sides.
Are you on the side of the delusional hateful lawbreaking violent psychopaths, or with the majority?
(My theory - you are not with the majority.)
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#187There’s a lot of talk in this thread of whether Jones is a data scientist or not, but that talk is missing something crucial - it doesn’t take a data scientist to assemble basic reports about infection rates and mortality. Little to none of what differentiates “data scientist” from “data analyst” or “statistician” is involved in these reports. There is no massive data, no black-box modeling, really no new statistics…
Right now, she is apparently an activist. There is nothing wrong with being an activist. However, IMHO, being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist. No matter how qualified you were, once you became a passionate activist, you are no longer a "data scientist" or a "data analyst" or a "statistician" on the topic. Again, there is nothing wrong with being an activist, but you can't be both. I feel this is so obvious that requires no further explanation, but I might get massive downvotes for saying this.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#188What a weird story that keeps getting weirder. I am a data scientist who spent June in Tallahassee helping coordinate state-wide COVID testing with FDEM (Florida Department of Emergency Management) and state health officials. Everyone I worked with was pretty dedicated to getting the roll out right (including the governor and his appointees too..) My data & work was spread far and wide with no issue - but just a pers…
It is a weird story. I do not think she is being targeted for speaking her mind or advocating a particular view of the COVID, the charges almost certainly are for accessing the non-public data she should not have accessed. And some data is sensitive. For example, if someone was pulling private medical records and harassing or blackmailing another person with that information it would, to me, justify both the search a…
> For example, if someone was pulling private medical records and harassing or blackmailing another person
I think it's highly unlikely that a state data analyst would have access to any private medical records. The Covid stats would have probably already been aggregated by the hospitals before they were sent to the state.
> find a potential HIPAA violation and throw a book at her
HIPAA is a federal law, so a violation of it wouldn't be prosecuted by the state of Florida.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#189There’s a lot of talk in this thread of whether Jones is a data scientist or not, but that talk is missing something crucial - it doesn’t take a data scientist to assemble basic reports about infection rates and mortality. Little to none of what differentiates “data scientist” from “data analyst” or “statistician” is involved in these reports. There is no massive data, no black-box modeling, really no new statistics…
Right now, she is apparently an activist. There is nothing wrong with being an activist. However, IMHO, being a "data scientist" is inherently incompatible with being an activist. No matter how qualified you were, once you became a passionate activist, you are no longer a "data scientist" or a "data analyst" or a "statistician" on the topic. Again, there is nothing wrong with being an activist, but you can't be both.…
Feeling that something requires no explanation is a rationalization for not having any explanation.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it would be helpful if you let us know why you believe it is obvious.
In what sane world do you merit a police raid for publishing public health data? Assuming the worst that she accessed a computer she was not authorized to access. This data, in the aggregate, is public data. Regardless innocent until proven guilty applies. And to date the state hasn’t even made their charges public which seems ridiculous. ‘I have an arrest warrant for you, but I can’t tell you the charge’.
> And to date the state hasn’t even made their charges public which seems ridiculous. ‘I have an arrest warrant for you, but I can’t tell you the charge’.
As I understand it, the police can tell _her_ the charges, but they cannot make the details of the warrants public until she has been processed. After that it becomes public record with the court.
This is itself an issue, because websites scrape court documents and re-publish the information as a service. They then charge a service fee to have the information removed, even in cases where the charges have been dropped.