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‘Seven Sisters’ Myths May Reach Back 100k Years

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Re: ‘Seven Sisters’ Myths May Reach Back 100k Years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not directly. Translation would be "to govern" or "gather together", but Subaru is one of the constellation's names in Japan, like it would also be called Pleiades in the West, deriving from "plein", meaning "to sail."[0] [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20100411083646/http://www.subaru...

I think his point is while Subaru does mean Pleiades in Japanese (actually came from Chinese), it (the name) has nothing to do with "seven sisters".

I don't follow. The logo literally has six stars, which is the subject of what we are discussing here.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the idea of the 100,000 years of memory is plausible, but I think it's likely to persist because the number seven seems to be universally important to humans. People could potentially have superimposed the number seven on the story, as per the rainbow's seven colours and Newton.

Since when is 7 important though? The species didn't have much of a math up until 5000-10000 years ago.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and claim that humans have been able to count since before you'd consider them human.

Lots of animals are able to count and it's ridiculous to assume that any individual with even a rudimentary language wouldn't be able to.

With which I mean to say that you don't need a formal understanding of 'mathematics' to count.

Further there's nothing mathematically super special about the number 7. You might say "it's a prime, and also X, Y, Z", but there's pretty much an infinite number of properties you could find for any number you choose.

Re: ‘Seven Sisters’ Myths May Reach Back 100k Years

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> ... May Reach Back 100k Years

Or may not.

One important fact: people get accolades and sometimes even direct monetary incentives for finding something that is supposedly "oldest of".

Nobody gets famous or rich by revising "oldest of" dates to a more recent timeline.

Re: ‘Seven Sisters’ Myths May Reach Back 100k Years

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I'm surprised the article didn't mention one of the most popular names for the "Seven Sisters," Subaru, the Japanese name and vehicle manufacturer whose logo contains six of the stars.

This has made the brand very popular with lesbians. Subaru has capitalized on it well.

https://medium.com/th-ink/how-subarus-became-the-car-for-les...

Re: ‘Seven Sisters’ Myths May Reach Back 100k Years

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TFA is speculative fiction - just enjoy!

100,000 year old stories would predate behavioural modernity, thought to have emerged 80,000 years ago.

Maybe eyesight was better 80,000 years ago, so the seven were discernable to the naked eye - combined with zero light and air pollution. OTOH maybe we'll find further evidence to push back behavioural modernity.

Re: ‘Seven Sisters’ Myths May Reach Back 100k Years

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Thank you for clarifying, then the main issue comes with global scale (a point that one of the other comments here makes).

You can pay them money to attend classes they hold (which you can find example Youtube videos of--basically 50min TED talks), and at the end of it you get a certificate. It was modeled after the International Space University, which in France, and shares a co-founder. I may be swayed that this is more of a "summer workshop" and not as academically rigorous as I'd like, but otherwise I'm not sure why you claim it does…

In many countries outside the US the term University is protected in law for institutions meeting some very rigorous criteria, so clarifying on what basis it’s called a University on a very international forum like this is useful for those not aware and who might make assumptions about what is meant by University.

The ISU is an accredited University which offers formal Masters degree programs, while Singularity University is not accredited and does not offer formal graduate or undergraduate degree courses.

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for clarifying, then the main issue comes with global scale (a point that one of the other comments here makes).

You can pay them money to attend classes they hold (which you can find example Youtube videos of--basically 50min TED talks), and at the end of it you get a certificate. It was modeled after the International Space University, which in France, and shares a co-founder. I may be swayed that this is more of a "summer workshop" and not as academically rigorous as I'd like, but otherwise I'm not sure why you claim it does…

>but otherwise I'm not sure why you claim it doesn't deserve the title "University."

Just because they can use that title doesn't mean they necessarily should, especially an organization rooted in academia that wants to be taken seriously. Even if it is legitimate and well intentioned, spuriously using the term 'university' and having a disclaimer like 'Singularity University is not a degree granting institution' in fine print definitely doesn't send the right message. I don't think it's an issue of whether they deserve to use that term but it gives the illusion that they're in company with other dubious non-accredited 'universities'. It's just bad optics.

Re: ‘Seven Sisters’ Myths May Reach Back 100k Years

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think his point is while Subaru does mean Pleiades in Japanese (actually came from Chinese), it (the name) has nothing to do with "seven sisters".

I don't follow. The logo literally has six stars, which is the subject of what we are discussing here.

They’ve identified the same stars, but do the Han or Korean or Japanese have a story about 7 sisters?

Re: ‘Seven Sisters’ Myths May Reach Back 100k Years

#70

fascinating - but I can't make out those three stars in a row (the guys sitting in the boat) from the constellation depicted below. Neither for 2020 nor 100'000 BCE. Also not from Stellarium. Weird.

Would you maybe share a screenshot from Stellarium?
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