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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by g_p »

CodeGlitch wrote: post #502
agilob wrote: post #302

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>I really wish the EU would put up funds for open source software, like signal, it seems to be something they could get behind for the greater good. They do https://hexus.net/tech/news/software/125747-14-open-source-p...

That's a bug bounty programme, which I agree is useful but not quite what I was talking about.

While better than nothing, I'd argue a bug bounty is perhaps the opposite of what's truly needed - incentivising the finding of vulnerabilities is good, but it needs people to fix those.

Alas, this is what happens when tech policy is written by people without tech experience, I suspect.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by olah_1 »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #642
olah_1 wrote: post #96

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It tells you that there’s a sustainable business model. Less ambiguity often translates to more comfort.

Counterexample: Wikipedia.

True. However, every year they send a campaign that makes it sound like they absolutely will not survive.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by oever »

pabs3 wrote: post #627
secfirstmd wrote: post #565

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Yeh so true. One of fhe great things about the Open Tech Fund was that it makes it easier for people with open source ideas, like Signal or our own Umbrella security training app, to get funding. Doing that through European funds would be impossible.

NLnet uses EU funds to help open source projects, in a similar way to OTF: https://nlnet.nl/

Not just EU funds, but those are currently the largest funds at NLnet.

NLnet does 'funding as a service'. If you want to fund a particular area of FOSS, we (I work there) can administer that. We provide low overhead funding to FOSS projects and pay particular attention to how the ecosystem benefits from projects.

So 'boring' projects that improve adherence to standards, increase deployments of standards compliant software, test standards compliance are very welcome. Redecentralizing the web requires this work, but few people think that this work is fundable. It is and in our opinion is has a high ROI for society.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by feanaro »

pmlnr wrote: post #707
feanaro wrote: post #700

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When was the last time you tried? My Synapse is stably hovering around 400M RSS with about 10-15% CPU usage. It has about 20 active users, each with 2-3 devices and is joined in hundreds of rooms on the federation.

> When was the last time you tried? About an hour ago.

Hmm, interesting. What kind of resource usage do you see, compared to mine?

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by [deleted] »

Daniel_sk wrote: post #365

"We have been adding new servers and extra capacity at a record pace every single day this week nonstop, but today exceeded even our most optimistic projections. Millions upon millions of new users are sending a message that privacy matters. We appreciate your patience." https://twitter.com/signalapp/status/1350165610936766464

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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by Daniel_sk »

baby wrote: post #616
Daniel_sk wrote: post #438

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"We are making progress towards getting the service back online. Privacy is our top priority, but adding capacity is a close second right now." https://twitter.com/signalapp/status/1350185818527211521

can't wait for the post mortem : o really wondering why there's an outage. I assume the SGX stuff quickly became a bottleneck, or the message forwarding server wasn't made to scale out very efficiently. In any case, they should have been able to have a very large queue in front of these components and just have a very slow system, probably something blew up due to the sudden peak of users.

My guess: https://twitter.com/NovakDaniel/status/1350471722034745348

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by chopin24 »

lucb1e wrote: post #84
shafyy wrote: post #67

Just a friendly reminder that Signal runs on donations and that if you can go and give them some money: https://signal.org/donate/

Or that you can use that money for a Matrix server instead of supporting centralization. Element is less polished than Signal app but they've been catching up quite fast. If you and your friends aren't locked into the Signal ecosystem yet, might be worth considering, especially if you're techies.

You pose this as centralization vs decentralization. This is actually Facebook vs Open Source, and for every feature that isn’t at parity with the existing solution, you lose users.

Is now the time to be dogmatic about decentralization?

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by andrepd »

nilsbunger wrote: post #461
corford wrote: post #404

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"Its market value surged from about $US55 million to over $US6 billion [...]" Pretty bonkers: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-16/signal-telegram-faceb...

Really undercuts the argument for the efficient market, at least in the short term!

I feel the entire history of capitalism undercuts that argument!

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Post by superdisk »

mike_d wrote: post #684
superdisk wrote: post #649

I'm afraid Signal really dropped the ball on this one. I'd be surprised if any of the new 50M users stick around after this fiasco. Also, this doesn't seem to actually be a scaling/hardware issue like they claim. They're running on AWS so they should be able to throw more hardware at it in a matter of minutes, hours tops. As of now, they've been down for 14 hours! Not sure what's going on but it's the absolute worst…

> They're running on AWS The client entry point (api.directory.signal.org) seems to be pointing exclusively to Azure and IBM Cloud depending on geography. It looks like just DNS, the website, and maybe some backend stuff are on AWS. > should be able to throw more hardware at it in a matter of minutes, hours tops Who exactly is going to pay for the hundreds of thousands of dollars in cloud spend you propose they turn…

> Who exactly is going to pay for the hundreds of thousands of dollars in cloud spend you propose they turn up?

Their 100M+ loan they got from Acton

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