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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Stock with ticker SIGL surged 6000% on Jan 11 - investors thought it's the Signal Messenger. Same like the wrong Zoom company.

"Its market value surged from about $US55 million to over $US6 billion [...]" Pretty bonkers: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-16/signal-telegram-faceb...

Really undercuts the argument for the efficient market, at least in the short term!

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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Telegram is not a secure chat application though. It's more similar to Facebook Messenger. You're better off using WhatsApp over it if you care about security. Or obviously Signal. When it comes to Matrix, it's a little trickier. Riot, the most common Matrix client does E2E encryption on DMs and invite only rooms. What I'm not sure is what happens if you send a private message to someone who is using Matrix client th…

> Telegram is not a secure chat application though. Fun fact: I didn't even write that. The rest is not so much for you personally as for a number Signal fans: I get it, I get it: Signal is best . But seriously: do you Signal fans have to derail every conversation? Do you have to take a jab at every other messenger at every given opportunity? Or can we agree that there's room for more than one solution? Because physi…

There is an already ecosystem on Telegram bots, channels and groups that lacks Signal, even if all my contacts move to Signal i would still keep Telegram only for those features and many more.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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The notifications transport for these on iOS is necessarily centralized as push notifications have to be sent from an apple developer client cert to Apple's APNS system. There is no such thing as decentralized messaging on iOS for this reason. The matrix developers run a push service, which all servers have to talk to to push notifications to their iOS app, even if you run your own instance. [ EDIT: The following sta…

> The matrix developers run a push service, which all servers have to talk to to push notifications to their iOS app, even if you run your own instance. This isn't really true: there are lots of Matrix iOS clients out there, and each run their own separate push server. Only Element iOS's push server is run by the 'matrix developers', and if you are worried about that then (if you are an iOS developer) you can build y…

Oh, okay, so just to confirm this means that push servers *AREN'T* getting any information about the messages being sent to users? The contents of the message, who sent it, etc?

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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But it’s par for the course for newly popular services. Some don’t survive the popularity and some thrive in spite of the degraded service. Signal will figure it out. All the best to the engineering team at Signal right now!

>But it’s par for the course for newly popular services. It is, but most consumers don't care, they just what their stuff to work 100% of the time as frictionless as possible, and, on top of all things, for free. Otherwise they just run back to the usual free surveilanceware. I've tried and failed to convince some young, highly educated zoomer friends with good incomes to move away from WhatsApp and Facebook and even…

Actually all the non switchers now see that there are really a lot of switchers. It's even on mainstream news websites here. I see this as a win.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/

Just threw $10 to them. I'll gladly pay for a quality service.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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> The devs last year started to speak publicly about making the change, but they were aware of the privacy concerns among users for much, much longer. You realise that this is something completely different than what you wanted to imply are you? Up until they introduced the PIN, they've been defending the phone number. Just because someone had a issue on github, doesn't mean they've been working on it...

Whether they were working on the Github issue or not, is irrelevant. Those Github issues (if not their own intuition already) would have already made them aware that by requiring a phone number, they were compromising user privacy. Of course they had their arguments for requiring a phone number. You think I’m knocking the app. I’m not, I think it is the best option available. I just feel that as long as the phone num…

Of course it's relevant.

One is some guy posting someone in the issue tracker where 1000s of other ideas are. The other is "them working on it".

https://signal.org/blog/contact-discovery/ (2014)

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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This is a good sign. Thanks to Zuckerberg's mistake, Signal reaps all the rewards. What can we learn from this?

Just because you own a platform doesn't mean you have an economic moat. The crowd's sentiment can change overnight and I think Zuck is honestly out of touch with public sentiments.

He probably thinks that he can run for US presidency using Facebook as a launchpad but all the money in the world won't fix myopia.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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This is a great idea. One of my friends who just jumped ship to Signal this week said in his first Signal message to me that he wished he’d “bought some shares” in Signal when I first told him about it... The first challenge is getting people to join the platform. The second challenge is educating them on how it’s actually funded... (ie NOT by pimping out your personal data for shareholder benefit).

Stock with ticker SIGL surged 6000% on Jan 11 - investors thought it's the Signal Messenger. Same like the wrong Zoom company.

What's even more wild is that the executives/directors didn't sell any of their stock on the massive increase.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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> Telegram is not a secure chat application though. Fun fact: I didn't even write that. The rest is not so much for you personally as for a number Signal fans: I get it, I get it: Signal is best . But seriously: do you Signal fans have to derail every conversation? Do you have to take a jab at every other messenger at every given opportunity? Or can we agree that there's room for more than one solution? Because physi…

There is an already ecosystem on Telegram bots, channels and groups that lacks Signal, even if all my contacts move to Signal i would still keep Telegram only for those features and many more.

Exactly my point.

We are going to have to live with various systems for a long time, IMO hopefully "forever" since competition typically often does wonderful things.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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"We have been adding new servers and extra capacity at a record pace every single day this week nonstop, but today exceeded even our most optimistic projections. Millions upon millions of new users are sending a message that privacy matters. We appreciate your patience." https://twitter.com/signalapp/status/1350165610936766464

> Millions upon millions of new users are sending a message that privacy matters

Awesome

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