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Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

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post #156

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The server code was published. Even if we don't know what services they use, you should be able to find quite easily what language the stuff is written in.

Server code may not tell you what the server is deployed on.

Hence my writing of

> Even if we don't know what services they use

and it merely helping to find

> what language the [server] stuff is written in

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

#272
post #126

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Signal is being used by at least 10 well-paid medical professionals (group chat) that I know of, and one of them proclaimed today that Signal is owned by Elon Musk (probably because he tweeted about it). I did not care to educate them. And this is in a first world country with a rather wealthy population. Why am I saying this? Users don't give a damn, they expect free things, and they expect things which work. They h…

> one of them proclaimed today that Signal is owned by Elon Musk (probably because he tweeted about it) here is another one (with an insane amount of likes/retweets for something so wrong): "Signal is owned by Twitter and monitored. While open source it is not as secure as they say. Use telegram." -- https://twitter.com/RebelOutlaw1990/status/13471653380777000...

Just a few tweet below in that thread:

> Telegram is owned by Google if not mistaken!?

sigh.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

#273
post #71

I just donated to Signal after seeing the error banner in the app. I realised I was more than happy to pay WhatsApp's yearly charge back in the pre-Facebook days (think it was 70p or so?). Figured I could give Signal a few quid every now and then, maybe keep a server up for a few seconds :) Donation link should anyone be interested: https://signal.org/donate/

I really wish the EU would put up funds for open source software, like signal, it seems to be something they could get behind for the greater good. My previous job involved creating a graphical programming language for the generation of GPU shaders, which the EU partly funded. I knew it was going nowhere, and it made me slightly sad tax payer money was being used on something I knew, despite my best efforts, would not work.

Oh well...

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

#274

Time to jump ship! Use element / matrix an open, decentralized, end-to-end encrypted chat protocol with slick clients for Android, iOS, Desktop & Web: https://element.io/ Also easy to self-host a server, if you need full control: $ mkdir -p ~/synapse $ pip3.6 install --user jinja2 matrix-synapse $ cd ~/synapse $ python3.6 -m synapse.app.homeserver \ --server-name my.domain.name \ --config-path homeserver.yaml \ --gen…

Thanks, I'll send this guide to my mom!

my mom uses at least python3.8

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

#275
post #241

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Matrix comes up a lot but even Signal is often called not polished enough. And for matrix onboarding is hard for techies and I've had zero chance for the general public. Fine to push it towards techies, but my grandma can't figure it out but she can Signal. Push matrix when it's more polished but right now it just feels silly to push it.

Unfortunately very true, so although I'm not a big fan of Signal's centralization and USA-based metadata processing (I'm not from the USA), I'll probably end up moving my family from (now) Telegram to Signal. Alternatives would be Threema and Wire, but Wire has the same main issues as Signal and Threema doesn't have video calls nor a desktop client and an unusable web client (deal breaker for me: you need to navigate…

> USA-based metadata processing

Do you mean that they have servers in the US? US based company? They don't leak metadata, that's the difference between Signal and Telegram/WhatsApp. If the encryption is good it shouldn't matter what country the company or servers is in. That's kinda the point of encryption...

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

#276

Anyone know what their backend is? Is it an erlang stack like Whatsapp?

It's written in Java using the Dropwizard framework.

I've skimmed through the code and found references to Protobuf, GCM and Redis

It's open source so you can check the code here: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

#278

FYI - check the JRE ep with Moxy Marlinspike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ0NkT6gbP0 https://open.spotify.com/episode/2uVHiMqqJxy8iR2YB63aeP === (Clearly downvoted by idiots who didnt even watch the short edit about signal... HN has an arrogance problem... Moxy Marlinspike is the founder of signal - and he talks about why he did so... Listen to him...)

a lot of people are pissed about the podcast moving to spotify as well

Why? Youtube is trash now...

For example, I have never once received a "you should watch this as well" decent recommendation from Youtube, the sidebar is absolute garbage and cant even keep the concept of a topic-thread... Youtube is total trash.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

#279

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Hell if I know. Give what feels right to you - imagine the service going away tomorrow, and someone saying "If only you'd paid $X/mo, this wouldn't be happening!" What's the value of X where you'd regret not having done so?

Not really worried about funding its existence for the sake of it just not freeloading my use while it's here and I decide it's worth it which is what the gp was referring to as well.

I'd still argue to give the amount the service is worth to you, but if you're not willing to do that, then I'd say bilal4hmed is probably right - $1/mo is probably sufficient. Facebook, Twitter, etc. all have ARPUs at or below $12/yr.

Re: Signal is having technical difficulties

#280
post #87

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signa... > The result was a mass migration that, if it lasts, could weaken the power of Facebook and other big tech companies. On Tuesday, Telegram said it added more than 25 million users over the previous three days, pushing it to over 500 million users. Signal added nearly 1.3 million users on Monday alone, after averaging just 50,000 downloads a day last year…

Hey, who let the Signal devs write their backend in Ruby on Rails? :-p

Where can I read about the signal server-side architecture? Is it open-source as well?
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