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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Post by ndiscussion »

zwaps wrote: post #155
KingOfCoders wrote: post #73

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I've cancelled Prime, now they hit me with week long delivery times which after a day are reduced by half or less, just to get me back on Prime.

I still have prime, and a good half of my "next day shipping" deliveries are delayed by a day, two days or even more. Granted, the current situation is problematic, but this happened even before and since you are prime, you don't get any money back or something like that. It's just bad luck then. Now, you might think you could rely on the services where you pay extra for same-day delivery or morning next day. But tho…

Not sure if it still applies since I cancelled prime, but you can contact Amazon any time a package is late, and they will give you credits or extensions to your Prime sub. That was in the US a year or so ago.

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Post by alasdair_ »

r053bud wrote: post #253
asidiali wrote: post #209

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The worst - YouTube TV They show you ads for YouTube TV, literally while are you watching TV with your paid YouTube TV subscription. How many ad dollars are just being flushed down the drain...

This is meant to be a replacement for normal cable....which also shows ads. As far as I know there is NO live cable service that is ad-free.

>This is meant to be a replacement for normal cable....which also shows ads. As far as I know there is NO live cable service that is ad-free.

HBO doesn't show commercials. It DOES use the time between two shows (starting on the hour or half hour) to preview other shows on the same network but I find these slightly less annoying that paid-for ads.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Post by rhino369 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #222
jonpurdy wrote: post #200

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This is a great example of why I still prefer torrenting films and TV shows as opposed to using my wife’s Netflix sub: the pirated media is better! Netflix and Hulu and competing with easier to use and more flexible pirated media, whether they like it or not. The consistency and flexibility of the VLC interface (or whatever media player you choose) is vastly better than whatever features a Netflix PM is trying to pus…

Yeah, piracy is almost always the better service. How the hell can a bunch of enthusiasts come up with a better service than multi-billion dollar companies? They seriously need to stop and rethink their industry. When I use my Netflix I get a horribly compressed "high definition" picture, annoying autoplaying ads for shows I don't care about and a constantly decreasing amount of content. Piracy offers the opposite of…

First, I dispute that piracy is really better. Amazon and netflix generally work easier than piracy. My, um friend, has radarr + usenet + plex, and its work pretty well 80%. But subtitles are often a problem. Unpacking/par checking sometimes takes forever. Sometimes the decoder in plex doesn't really work. Sometimes the movie has been DMCA'd off the use net servers. Private trackers involve sucking up to to 15 year old polish kids who run their service like the Stazi.

You can usually find everything you want, but sometimes it requires some time.

I don't have a large 4k tv, so maybe I'm not appreciating how bad the streaming movies look.

But Netflix, Amazon, itunes, Vudo, etc. are all way easier services to use.

Second, they are targeting the masses, who probably like a 30 second preview for another show and don't care how 4k is encoded. In my experience, about 50% of people with high def TV's didn't even set up high def cable packages.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Post by rhino369 »

tartoran wrote: post #266
matheusmoreira wrote: post #222

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Yeah, piracy is almost always the better service. How the hell can a bunch of enthusiasts come up with a better service than multi-billion dollar companies? They seriously need to stop and rethink their industry. When I use my Netflix I get a horribly compressed "high definition" picture, annoying autoplaying ads for shows I don't care about and a constantly decreasing amount of content. Piracy offers the opposite of…

I think all creators should have a pirates donations box so pirated content doesn’t impact the creators that much.

Nothing is really stopping you from paying for the content and pirating it to get the quality you want.

But lets be honest, essentially all pirates just want the content for free.

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Post by newswasboring »

reaperducer wrote: post #298
newswasboring wrote: post #263

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Yes, when was the last time you actually saw the credits on those devices? Like who is the lead designer of your phone? Who is the lead programmer of the last game you played?

There are credits in the About menu of about 50% of the programs I use each day. There are even credits in the loading screen of Adobe Photoshop.

That is not my point. Things being there doesn't make them important

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Post by tartoran »

rhino369 wrote: post #324
tartoran wrote: post #266

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I think all creators should have a pirates donations box so pirated content doesn’t impact the creators that much.

Nothing is really stopping you from paying for the content and pirating it to get the quality you want. But lets be honest, essentially all pirates just want the content for free.

I'd like to bypass the whole system (the middleman army) and give a donation directly to the creator if possible and I do sometimes when I'm awestruck with something. But that is not always possible and rare to matter in the grand scheme of things.

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Post by rhino369 »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #137
KingOfCoders wrote: post #53

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Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

You also can't change the UI language with Prime Video. I'm an American in Germany, no option to use English.

For some reason, Amazon defaults me to German subtitles, despite me being an American in America.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

retox wrote: post #180

I was told a story about the Dropbox sales team a while back that swore me off using them. They contacted the company I worked at, that didn't have a business contract with Dropbox, offering a great deal and a meeting was quickly arranged. The meeting (which I only heard about secondhand from a good friend) quickly turned into a strong-arm operation. Dropbox had 'detected' that employees at our company were using Dro…

> Dropbox had 'detected' that employees at our company were using Dropbox and it would be unfortunate if their stored files were no longer available and it would be in our best interest to sign up for a business account or we might legally be in breach of some terms of service.

That's such a dumb sales tactic. Having users inside a company without any contracts with the company means that there are probably evangelists for the product working there but management won't buy. Time to give a free trial of the pro-enterprise-moneymaker version and hope that someone decide it's worth it.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

protomyth wrote: post #188
retox wrote: post #180

I was told a story about the Dropbox sales team a while back that swore me off using them. They contacted the company I worked at, that didn't have a business contract with Dropbox, offering a great deal and a meeting was quickly arranged. The meeting (which I only heard about secondhand from a good friend) quickly turned into a strong-arm operation. Dropbox had 'detected' that employees at our company were using Dro…

Well, the tactic worked for Oracle, and I would assume some of those lawyers landed at other SV companies. Although, to be fair to Oracle, they didn't do dark pattern stuff when I used them.

But then look at how their "cloud" is doing.

Is anyone anywhere in SV building new products on top of Oracle?

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Post by bigtones »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #53
Ensorceled wrote: post #18

I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

Same on Cable TV. It's full of ads in the USA - and that's after you pay $100 per month for a cable subscription.
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