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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

Tarsnap is ridiculously expensive. Only use-case if you have small files (few gigabytes at most) and you want to use it to do backup with scripts/command-line and do care a lot about encryption.

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What you can’t turn off is the bit where they drop you into another trailer when you’ve just finished watching a series after months of investment. A little time to digest would be real nice.

Every single video app I have on my AppleTV: Netflix, Amazon, Criterion, even Apple’s own TV app, shrinks whatever you are watching down to a thumbnail just before the movie or show ends. I fucking hate it. Yes, I’m one of those weirdos who sits through to the end when the copyright rolls past and gets pissed off when the lights come on at a theater during the credits. It is incredibly disrespectful to the film. This…

Of the services you listed, I only have Netflix. I hated that too, fortunately you can disable it [0]. Perhaps your other services have a similar setting.

[0] - https://help.netflix.com/en/node/2102

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I get the sentiment for live performance, but in your own home, I can not relate to this. Vast majority of people in credits are doing a job and getting paid for it, just like any other profession or trade. We don't pay "respect" to delivery drivers, or to designers and engineers who brings us our gadgets and services in same way. Why should I spend my time and attention on credit rolls? It's not like anyone noticing…

You don't tip? Tips are showing your respect for deliveries. Also, most gadgets I've seen have a screen that can be viewed with credits in them, as well as most software. Video games have credits too. Books have credits too, right there on the cover and is probably what grabs your attention more than the title.

Yes, when was the last time you actually saw the credits on those devices? Like who is the lead designer of your phone? Who is the lead programmer of the last game you played?

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Companies like Facebook with their demanding WhatsApp users provide access to private data, and now Dropbox demanding access to private data is highlighting an interesting phenomenon: These companies feel entitled to our private data and now are becoming hostile when they don't get it.

I sincerely hope that the broader community outside of Hacker News pushes back severely on this behavior or else it will only get worse.

Edit to add: These companies have such a feeling of entitlement to our data that their next move will be to try to convince legislatures to force us to give them access to it. Mark my words.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I stopped using Dropbox when they stopped allowing bulk note exports in Paper. Paper is so good , but it's ruined by their moat-building. They seem to be headed down a path of increasingly dark patterns.

I immediately download all my Paper notes. On the upside, the bulk downloading option is still available: Dropbox Paper > Your Icon > Download docs you created.

I wouldn't have moved away from Dropbox if that option existed on my account.

The options I see:

Upgrade

Settings

Install Dropbox app

Sign out

Add team account

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This is a great example of why I still prefer torrenting films and TV shows as opposed to using my wife’s Netflix sub: the pirated media is better! Netflix and Hulu and competing with easier to use and more flexible pirated media, whether they like it or not. The consistency and flexibility of the VLC interface (or whatever media player you choose) is vastly better than whatever features a Netflix PM is trying to pus…

Yeah, piracy is almost always the better service. How the hell can a bunch of enthusiasts come up with a better service than multi-billion dollar companies? They seriously need to stop and rethink their industry. When I use my Netflix I get a horribly compressed "high definition" picture, annoying autoplaying ads for shows I don't care about and a constantly decreasing amount of content. Piracy offers the opposite of…

I think all creators should have a pirates donations box so pirated content doesn’t impact the creators that much.

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Every single video app I have on my AppleTV: Netflix, Amazon, Criterion, even Apple’s own TV app, shrinks whatever you are watching down to a thumbnail just before the movie or show ends. I fucking hate it. Yes, I’m one of those weirdos who sits through to the end when the copyright rolls past and gets pissed off when the lights come on at a theater during the credits. It is incredibly disrespectful to the film. This…

Of the services you listed, I only have Netflix. I hated that too, fortunately you can disable it [0]. Perhaps your other services have a similar setting. [0] - https://help.netflix.com/en/node/2102

That setting doesn't disable the shrinking of a movie down to a thumbnail at the end. It only disables the auto-starting of the next episode of a TV show.

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I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

I had a similar experience after kicking out Box. Sometimes enterprise SW companies get so caught up in the 20% of power users that they forget the value of simplicity for the 80%.

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The best answer to this tactic is, “Nice Dropbox you have there. Shame if OneDrive were to happen to it.” The O365 integration with OneDrive is so seamless relative to other options, employees won’t even complain after an initial learning curve. In fact, many will start subscribing to O365 on iOS etc. and start having access to the same content synced across Windows, MacOS, iOS, Xbox, etc. At this point, with employe…

This is an interesting take, and i agree with you. I myself have used dropbox for personal stuff, and onedrive with several of my previous employers for years now. For any person or business that i know who is all-in on microsoft products/services, i recommend to just adopt leveraging oneDrive, and life for them gets easier. (I didn't say better in other ways...but certainly easier.) In fact, oneDrive is good enough…

I mount onedrive on linux pretty well with rclone.

1. Setup rclone with onedrive (you have to copy an oauth token iirc)

2. Run mount

    nohup rclone --vfs-cache-mode writes mount onedrive: ~/onedrive &

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

Check out the nextcloudpi project. Paid once for the pi/drive/case 4 years ago and been a happy user ever since. It's been so worry free that when I had to move house I had to read the docs again to make sure I do things right. And that's on top of me studying the project well enough the first time I set it up that I ended up contributing some patches. P.S. There are hosted offerings for nextcloud but for a household…

You need to set up a dynamic DNS, right?
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