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Following the recent CentOS fiasco, I'm advising friends to go with Debian. It's rock solid and can be depended upon.
Maybe for servers. But it still has plenty of rough edges as a desktop OS. Mint is a much better choice (IMO) for the desktop, that still is somewhat within the Debian ecosystem.
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The code names make issues with specific versions or eras easy to search
Ubuntu at least does it in alphabetical order of the first letter of the codename. Eg, the release after Ubuntu 20.04 Focal was Ubuntu 20.10 Groovy. This means that hearing the Ubuntu codename "Bionic" provides some information: it was 4 releases before Focal. But Debian codenames are arbitrarily based on characters from the movie Toy Story, so there's no relation to the Debian release. To fix this, I propose for fut…
Debian labels itself the 'universal operating system', and makes no aspirations to cater to the lowest common denominator of users.
Linux kernel 5.10
gcc 10.2
libc 2.31
Perl 5.32
And some non-essential packages that look to being included in the upcoming release (I'm sure there's plenty of other exciting inclusions that I've missed):
GNOME 3.38
KDE Plasma 5.20
Xfce 4.16
LXQt 0.16
MATE 1.24
Cinnamon 4.8
Apache httpd 2.4.46
Python 3.9
LibreOffice 7.0
QEMU 5.2
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It's because in 2021, i386 processors are obsolescent. The last non-amd64 processor that ran x86 is the Pentium 4E from 2004, a 17-year-old machine. The packages will still be available as long as there's a maintainer, but it's not worth packaging a full debian release for such a small and shrinking portion of the userbase.
But i386 will still run on 64 bit hardware. A place I was working recently was insisting on sticking to 32 bit linux while they migrated off Solaris, mostly for stupid reasons on code that wasn't too hard to port, but just because the hardware is no longer compatible doesn't mean the software is, especially for any proprietary software that will never be upgraded.
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It's because in 2021, i386 processors are obsolescent. The last non-amd64 processor that ran x86 is the Pentium 4E from 2004, a 17-year-old machine. The packages will still be available as long as there's a maintainer, but it's not worth packaging a full debian release for such a small and shrinking portion of the userbase.
> The last non-amd64 processor that ran x86 is the Pentium 4E from 2004, a 17-year-old machine. Atom CPUs without x86_64 support were released up until 2013.
Debian is an amazing project. I love how it's so fundamental but doesn't call attention or hype to itself. It's used by millions but doesn't try to be sexy or glamorous. Even the website is minimal.
Hmm, popcon says only 199127 submitters, I wonder how many Debian systems there actually are. https://popcon.debian.org/
i915 GPU freeze on kernel 5.x solved?
Debian is an amazing project. I love how it's so fundamental but doesn't call attention or hype to itself. It's used by millions but doesn't try to be sexy or glamorous. Even the website is minimal.
Hmm, popcon says only 199127 submitters, I wonder how many Debian systems there actually are. https://popcon.debian.org/
So yeah, I think this statistic is orders of magnitude lower than in reality.
What I like about Debian is that they don’t really force you to install this.
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> The last non-amd64 processor that ran x86 is the Pentium 4E from 2004, a 17-year-old machine. Atom CPUs without x86_64 support were released up until 2013.
Debian Buster LTS is supported until 2024 and then probably ELTS until 2026. Also how many of these 32-bit Atom CPUs are actually in use anymore? It's a pretty edge case.
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Also, it "just works". It's so reliable that I almost forget it's there. 10+ years in production and not once an OS/distro bang-up.
As an outsider, it's not the reliability of the software that is amazing to me. It's the governance and management of the project. The distro has managed to be amazingly consistent and stable for years. But the reason for this is how the project is run. It's hard to do that for so long with minimal drama and they deserve tons for kudos for that effort. Like some others, where CentOS was my go-to distro, I've started…