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Post by sellyme »

PeterStuer wrote: post #437
asdff wrote: post #308

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work gave us google drive accounts with "unlimited" capacity

You'll find out what 'unlimited' means in SaaS speak very, very much sooner than you expect if you tried really to utilize it.

You'd be surprised. Google has a lot of storage lying around, it takes them a while to notice it being used up. I know of at least three people who on the order of petabytes of data on Google Drive.

They took action against one organisation that had multiple 10PB+ users but Google really doesn't seem to care that much about the tertiary institutes giving unlimited GDrive accounts to every data hoarder who pretends to enrol.

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Post by sellyme »

rendall wrote: post #316
ardy42 wrote: post #292

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> The Hacker Who Archived Parler Explains How She Did It (and What Comes Next) I'm really glad she did that. I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down, but it really needs to be archived somewhere for historical purposes, to help understand this moment. Given the kind of media and political impact Trump's tweets from @theRealDonaldTrump have been, I really hope they're archived at NARA along with the @POTUS twe…

> "I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down" I understand this on a visceral level, but I wish more people would look beyond that to the implications for communication on the web. This action by Amazon happens to correspond with what I think is right and just on first iteration, but what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with?

> what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with?

The principle of Amazon not wanting to piss off all of their customers and several government organisations. If you're this tentative about something you explicitly agree is just, then clearly you (and millions of others) are going to react pretty harshly to Amazon unilaterally deciding, e.g., that all mentions of Belgium should get scrubbed from the platform.

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Post by bootlooped »

blacklight wrote: post #597
hodgesrm wrote: post #588

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> And even if they wanted to hire some smart engineers to do the job for them, we all know that engineers tend to swing on the other opposite of the ideological spectrum. Do we all really know that? Some very good technical people don't have particularly strong political views or keep them separate from their job. Example: lots of ordinary devs helped build porn sites.

As a dev I feel that building a platform to share conspiracy-fueled hate is way more immoral and damaging than building a platform to host porn content. At least porn doesn't harm anybody - except maybe your hand :)

Did you read the recent NY Times pieces on PornHub?

The Children of Pornhub https://nyti.ms/33DMObR

An Uplifting Update, on the Terrible World of Pornhub https://nyti.ms/2W1aB1b

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Post by sellyme »

ardy42 wrote: post #575
rendall wrote: post #343

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I didn't say anything about "forcing Amazon to do business" with me. If that's your solution, it's a non-starter. I don't have a solution, but Amazon + Apple + Google coordinating to shut down a platform for communication - even a platform that contains expression that I strongly disagree with, I might add - is a problem that requires a solution This is what I wish more people understood now rather than later, but at…

> I don't have a solution, but Amazon + Apple + Google coordinating to shut down a platform for communication - even a platform that contains expression that I strongly disagree with, I might add - is a problem that requires a solution Did they actually coordinate [1] or just come to similar conclusions based on similar facts, in the context of the same cultural zeitgeist? [1] e.g. Bezos, Cook, and Pichai (or subordi…

I wouldn't describe it as coordination, but I think it's relatively safe to assume that at the very least whichever companies were slowest to react would have had their decision influenced by the earlier actions of other large companies. So there probably is somewhat of a snowball effect there.

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Post by Talanes »

sellyme wrote: post #602
rendall wrote: post #316

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> "I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down" I understand this on a visceral level, but I wish more people would look beyond that to the implications for communication on the web. This action by Amazon happens to correspond with what I think is right and just on first iteration, but what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with?

> what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with? The principle of Amazon not wanting to piss off all of their customers and several government organisations. If you're this tentative about something you explicitly agree is just, then clearly you (and millions of others) are going to react pretty harshly to Amazon unilaterally deciding, e.g., that all mentions of Belgium should get scr…

>Belgium

I mean, it is the rudest word in the universe.

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Post by imvictor »

rsync wrote: post #576
ghaff wrote: post #553

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I do use AWS S3 for storage and it's very cheap for my needs. But I do periodically think about switching to a VPS (or to Backblaze which does let you set a hard cap). I also help out a small non-profit newspaper mostly operated by students. We're going to need some storage for an archiving project and there's no way in hell I'm going to use AWS for that.

There are also cloud storage providers that do not charge for transfer or egress, etc. There’s one in particular I’m thinking of…

It's Wasabi S3 https://wasabi.com, and ridiculously cheap for storage.

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Post by szhu »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #279
grahamburger wrote: post #75

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Let's hope so! The more we diversify our social media consumption as a society the better off we all are. Well, other than Jack and Mark.

I didn't read Dorsey's actual tweets, but here's what the Guardian said about them: >Dorsey underscored in his tweets a need for a new “open decentralized standard for social media”. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jan/13/trump-twi...

He's been talking about this for a while.

> Twitter is funding a small independent team of up to five open source architects, engineers, and designers to develop an open and decentralized standard for social media. The goal is for Twitter to ultimately be a client of this standard.

https://twitter.com/jack/status/1204766078468911106

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Post by imvictor »

compsciphd wrote: post #397
asdff wrote: post #308

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work gave us google drive accounts with "unlimited" capacity

except you can only upload 750GB a day without somewhat workarounds

You can. Create multiple service accounts, add them to the Shared drives and connect the service accounts using Rclone, a CLI tool that allows you to perform I/O operations on multiple cloud storage.

Once a service account reached the limit, switch to another.

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Post by jonathanstrange »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #562
jonathanstrange wrote: post #541

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That wasn't your argument, though. There is no doubt that the production of CP is and should be illegal, as it involves child abuse. However, your original argument was about the possession of CP. There is a standard argument against the claim that this is a victimless crime, and that is that the children abused are harmed by the distribution of pictures that show them. I find that argument to some extent convincing,…

That is quite literally what I said though.

No, you suggested that the harm caused in the production is a reason for criminalizing possession, which is what I disagree with. I accept other reasons in this case, but not this one. Which of these positions you endorse has far-reaching consequences for the moral and legal evaluation.

It's similar with the "war on drugs" or when you want to evaluate the morality of your sneakers and clothes. Should possession of the drugs be illegal because people were harmed in their production (by e.g. drug cartels), should possession of the clothes be illegal because they were produced with child labour? I don't think so.

Edit: To make this clear, I merely replied again to clarify the difference not because I think there is a huge disagreement. This is obviously an unpleasant and contentious topic and I very much hope I don't come across as a CP apologist - I'm not, for the other reason I've mentioned.

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Post by armada651 »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #593
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> At which point it's not clear that we even need a step two, because then the relevant people are in jail. I know the US has the biggest prison population in the world, but you can't keep these people in prison for life. They will be released from jail at some point and start spreading their ideology again. I hate to pull a godwin, but "let's throw the insurrectionists in jail and that's the end of that" hasn't work…

> I know the US has the biggest prison population in the world, but you can't keep these people in prison for life. I think murdering a police officer is a capital offense. You don't get back out of jail after that one. But even for the people committing less violence than that, and who in turn eventually get released, they only stay released if they stay non-violent. Otherwise they're right back to jail. > I hate to…

> But even for the people committing less violence than that, and who in turn eventually get released, they only stay released if they stay non-violent. Otherwise they're right back to jail.

I am of the opinion that we should prevent violent insurrection rather than waiting for it to happen and then responding with jail time.

> So now we're abandoning even the premise of free speech?

Where did I say that? I'm not saying we should prevent all book publishing, but you do understand what historical precedence I was referring to right?

> If people are engaged in violence you put them in jail. If people are non-violently saying dumb things and you don't agree with them, you say your thing too.

If the dumb thing they're saying is that all politicians are satan worshipers and pedophiles, then it doesn't matter what "thing" I have to say to them.

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