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U.S. insurrectionists received $500k in bitcoins from French donor

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For those who don't know this reference... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

It's disgusting how such primitive people can still exist in our modern world. Yes, we have many people doing horrible things all over the world, but people being vile because their ancestors had less sun than others is a special kind of pointless stupidity.

It's a reminder of how ancient our brains really are, despite our advancement of the average state of society as a whole.

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I'm not sure of the point here, this seems a bit nonsensical. Do you avoid using cash too because criminals use it? Using or accepting Bitcoin is not dangerous because of this. And you have no more chance of unintentionally recieving funds linked to this than you have of unintentionally recieving cash used for criminal purposes. (Not intending to start an argument for or against Bitcoin, and there are other pros and…

Cash is private so it doesn't matter. When you pay with it, nobody knows where it came from. You can have extreme inconvenience for being linked to illegal bitcoin transactions.

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The other day, I tweeted out my tin-foil-hat theory that the recent BTC runup was partly due to alt-right interests, expecting the events on the 6th to go very differently. This kind of makes me wonder even harder.

I believe it’s the same group of people artificially (but maybe not deliberately) inflating both BTC and Tesla

How can you consider a crypto (or other commodity) to be "artificially" inflated? It's not backed by anything; it's worth precisely what people are willing to pay for it, with no strings attached.

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Sometimes you just gotta wonder about some people. The most pro status-quo candidate in a generation is planning to take us to the dark ages?

Well, "business as usual" has led working class (and middle class) america to wage stagnation, increasingly worse jobs, de-industrialization, decline of small towns, meth/heroin rise, and such, plus wars mainly using poor rural people as fodder, and other such niceties. Plus coastal elites (including non-elites who still identify as hollier-than the plebs in the fly-over country) sneering at them. The glorious march…

The best part, some degree of socialism would help these people... yet they're opposed to it because it would help `other` people.

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#116
This article uses loaded language to make a defamation claim against Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes is still on Twitter, and pinned to the top of his page is photo evidence that shows the person they are asserting was in the Capitol is not him. He was wearing a suit. The photo of him at the steps of the Capitol is not incriminating in any way. He was protesting along with 250K+ other conservatives in Washington DC. It's not a crime to hold a megaphone in front of the Capitol. It's literally his First Amendment right. This article is false, baiting, and loaded. Please remove it.

https://twitter.com/NickJFuentes

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Dangerous to use if you're not careful. I guess that is one of the many downfalls of not having secure defaults. Taproot and Schnorr are slowly coming to bitcoin. But would this blog post even exist if they had used a coinjoin/payjoin or lightning?

It is essentially certain that strong privacy will never come to bitcoin. Taproot and schnorr will make no meaningful difference, unless you mean it will assist people in doing atomic swaps to a private currency like Monero. Average people will never make the effort to do expensive (or cheap) coinjoins that will make them look suspicious. Lightning network does not have strong privacy guarantees and it continues to s…

Monero can be traced with CipherTrace.

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I'm not sure of the point here, this seems a bit nonsensical. Do you avoid using cash too because criminals use it? Using or accepting Bitcoin is not dangerous because of this. And you have no more chance of unintentionally recieving funds linked to this than you have of unintentionally recieving cash used for criminal purposes. (Not intending to start an argument for or against Bitcoin, and there are other pros and…

>Do you avoid using cash too because criminals use it? I probably would if cash were only used by criminals and speculators.

Many legitimate uses of BTC have been accounted for.

Are torrents also bad because pirates often use it?

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#119

I hope this will get attention. Just so more people will realise that bitcoin is dangerous to use and accept because it is not private. Even if youre doing nothing wrong, would you want to unintentionally receive funds linked to this?

Depends what you are selling. It is not illegal to sell bread to criminals. Or cars. Maybe if done knowingly? I dont see big risks in accepting bitcoin as a payment method for legal goods and services.

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post #92

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Sometimes you just gotta wonder about some people. The most pro status-quo candidate in a generation is planning to take us to the dark ages?

Well, "business as usual" has led working class (and middle class) america to wage stagnation, increasingly worse jobs, de-industrialization, decline of small towns, meth/heroin rise, and such, plus wars mainly using poor rural people as fodder, and other such niceties. Plus coastal elites (including non-elites who still identify as hollier-than the plebs in the fly-over country) sneering at them. The glorious march…

Kind of a good take, but these points actually makes their attitude even stranger: they are not afraid of neoliberalism, which is the defacto economic position of both the left and the right, but of "communism." Biden is a "communist," or "godless," or "anti-American." What do these statements actually mean?

You can argue that their feelings of economic greivance make sense--but their voting habits are a rejection of policies like universal healthcare (which would benefit the vast majority of them) because "socialism." They eagerly voted in those who planned to dismantle the ACA and loudly said they would do so in 2016 ("repeal and replace"), then when the Republicans attempted to leave them high and dry, everyone, including Trump, panicked and backed out. What's going on here?

This attempt to make them sound reasonable in their fear glosses over the obvious contradictions in how they vote and where they think their problems lie. What will four more years of Republican tax cuts coupled with absurd austerity politics get them? Biden is worse than this because...?

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