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This should be obvious and media and propaganda tools have always been like this. If there were no Facebook, it would be another news paper brooding the insurrection.
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This is fucking fantastic... its truly Orwellian to gaslight people into thinking they're using "Orwellian" incorrectly. When what all these people really mean, but obviously can't say, is, "We didn't think we would become the Orwellian overlords!" Chomsky said it best, “Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of…
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That's false. Please don't spread false information, whatever your politics. Parler had very similar terms of service to other content companies prohibiting illegal, violent, or copyrighted content. They also paid a team of content moderators to adjudicate flagged posts. They worked happily with their reps at Apple, Google, and AWS right up until the Friday Night Massacre. They were a small company experiencing massi…
>There was not a peep about their content until from their reps until 1/6 According to Amazon's response to Parler's lawsuit, they were warned for months about their content. https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.294664... There is a handy summary of this on Ars Technica as well. That article also says Parler was relying on volunteer moderation to clear their backlog of over 26000 posts.
You wrote that Amazon warned Parler about their content, but that's not what your link shows. It shows that Amazon asked a question about policies regarding specific posts, and Parler answered with their policies.
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Parler, unlike Facebook, only existed to foment the kinds of rhetoric and ideologies that lead to the 6th.
Not to provide facts to counter your generalizations, but... I was on Parler for several months, trawling it and other sources quite heavily for the last month or so, trying to keep abreast of ... events. At no time did I see even a single post advocating violent overthrow of the government, white supremacy, etc. Apparently, neither did any of those planning the Capital attack, since they were not Parler members. So,…
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Knives can be used to kill people. But a lot more knives are used in cooking. So we see knives as tools that are relatively rarely used to do bad things and mostly used for good things. Guns are mostly used to kill people. So we see them as tools only useful for that purpose. That’s why you can buy a set of knives on Amazon but not a 10 pack of Glocks. Facebook is seen closer to knives. Parler was mostly guns.
This is a horrible argument. Not only is is factually untrue on nearly every count, it's not even an accurate analogy, even if it were true. You can't buy guns on Amazon for the same reason you can't buy tobacco, liquor, lottery tickets, or cars on Amazon. Because these are all things which are regulated by the government in such a way as to be incompatible with Amazon's logistics and purchasing setup and customer ex…
NYT engineered consent for the Iraq War?
While I’m no fan of facebook and they are definitely guilty of putting their profits ahead of anything else, that is unfortunately rather typical of a corporation their size. Facebook hasn’t done the world more harm than big oil did.
The fault lies of course with the perpetrators (Facebook, Exxon) but mainly with regulators for failing to act in time.
But bad as they are, Facebook and oil companies actually do have legitimate business with normal people in the real world. Whereas as far as I can tell, Parler was almost purely a platform for lunacy.
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As we saw with Parler, your fledgling site can get deplatformed by the few key players in the cloud / app distribution / and service providers. "Just make it" is no longer as convincing a non-sequitor as it used to be.
Its going to be okay. This whole "Just make your own Twitter!", "Just make your own datacenter!", "Just make your own payment processor!" is exactly what will eventually happen. I think we might be seeing the start of a total division of society along political sides.
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Intent does matter. Why don't you try moderating posts at the scale facebook receives them, and we can compare the results. edit: I am not advocating for or against facebook being so large. What I am saying is there is a clear distinction between facebook and e.g. parler in terms of moderation.
why are we starting with the assumption that anyone needs to receive and moderate posts at the scale facebook does?
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Knives can be used to kill people. But a lot more knives are used in cooking. So we see knives as tools that are relatively rarely used to do bad things and mostly used for good things. Guns are mostly used to kill people. So we see them as tools only useful for that purpose. That’s why you can buy a set of knives on Amazon but not a 10 pack of Glocks. Facebook is seen closer to knives. Parler was mostly guns.
> Guns are mostly used to kill people. That’s an incorrect statement. Let’s look at the evidence. More than 50 million Americans engaged in some kind of recreational shooting in 2018 [0]. Compare that to 14,000 gun-related homicides across the country in the same period [1], mostly in certain high-crime communities [2]. The CDC estimates there are between 500,000 and 3 million instances of defensive gun use in the US…
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This is fucking fantastic... its truly Orwellian to gaslight people into thinking they're using "Orwellian" incorrectly. When what all these people really mean, but obviously can't say, is, "We didn't think we would become the Orwellian overlords!" Chomsky said it best, “Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of…
I think the term Orwellian should be used carefully not because of a strategy to censor people but because it tends to accompany and be a symptom of sloppy, armchair thinking that leads to fruitless fights on social media. (similar to Godwin's law)
Exactly we need an elite social group to determine what is Orwellian.