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Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Post by ethanbond »

shockeychap wrote: post #33
gurleen_s wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a difference between what happened to Parler (vendors refusing to do business with them) and Facebook (relatively more self reliant).

Isn't Facebook dependent on backbone service providers at their data centers? Are those vendors at liberty to discontinue service? Edit: For a multitude of reasons - money, money, and money - I don't expect any vendors would discontinue service with Facebook. The question is more of a thought exercise.

> Are those vendors at liberty to discontinue service?

Depends on their contracts and that’s all it depends on.

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Post by fvdessen »

RIMR wrote: post #38
theandrewbailey wrote: post #8

According to modern zeitgeist, if Facebook can't be trusted to moderate their users, Facebook should be deplatformed and shut down. Edit: wow, that blew up. For the record, I don't think Facebook should be shut down, and I don't think Parler should have either. I'm rather anti-social media, so I've never used either. We should have better reasons for doing things, and stick to them. Section 230 exists for a reason.

Parler rented all their infrastructure from companies that get to choose how their infrastructure gets used. Private companies can run themselves as they please. Facebook owns all their own infrastructure and gets the final say on how their infrastructure is used. Private companies can run themselves as they please. If you violate the terms of your rental agreement, your landlord gets to kick you out. If you can't af…

I think it's obvious that private companies should not be able to 'run themselves as they please'.

Also in my country landlords can't kick renters out if they disagree politically. I think that's a good thing. Maybe similar regulation should apply to infrastructure providers.

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Post by 55555 »

RIMR wrote: post #38
theandrewbailey wrote: post #8

According to modern zeitgeist, if Facebook can't be trusted to moderate their users, Facebook should be deplatformed and shut down. Edit: wow, that blew up. For the record, I don't think Facebook should be shut down, and I don't think Parler should have either. I'm rather anti-social media, so I've never used either. We should have better reasons for doing things, and stick to them. Section 230 exists for a reason.

Parler rented all their infrastructure from companies that get to choose how their infrastructure gets used. Private companies can run themselves as they please. Facebook owns all their own infrastructure and gets the final say on how their infrastructure is used. Private companies can run themselves as they please. If you violate the terms of your rental agreement, your landlord gets to kick you out. If you can't af…

They are in both app stores. Parler was removed.

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Post by rchaud »

prophetjohn wrote: post #15
theandrewbailey wrote: post #8

According to modern zeitgeist, if Facebook can't be trusted to moderate their users, Facebook should be deplatformed and shut down. Edit: wow, that blew up. For the record, I don't think Facebook should be shut down, and I don't think Parler should have either. I'm rather anti-social media, so I've never used either. We should have better reasons for doing things, and stick to them. Section 230 exists for a reason.

I'm no Facebook fan or apologist, but I do think there's a distinction between failing to moderate perfectly (or even well) and refusing to even attempt to moderate.

Incitement to terrorism isn't something where failing to moderate perfectly should be tolerated.

There is already a zero-tolerance approach to numerous extremist groups, regardless of whether they are active on American soil or not. Why should this be treated any differently?

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Post by 55555 »

pjc50 wrote: post #40
_gmnw wrote: post #10

Facebook knows their audience well and is catering to it. It's social media for middle-aged conservatives, so it makes sense to advertise to them. I don't know of a lot of young people who use the platform still, they've all gone off to TikTok or Instagram(still FB I know).

Middle-aged conservatives buying insurrection cosplay gear is, I would say, a problem in itself that America is really unwilling to confront. The boundary between pretend and reality gets very, very thin and the ammunition purchased is live. (It could even fall under existing restrictions on ""gangs"", if those weren't targeted at nonwhite people only!)

If they are white then we call them mafia, unless they are white and more brute, in which case we call them a mob, which is, to be fair, a word commonly used to refer to the people at the Capitol on the 6th.

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Post by bluedino »

rreichel03 wrote: post #7

As an anecdote, since July they've started showing me ads for body armor almost nonstop whenever I actually open the app. Just the other day it was a body armor ad then an ad for a tactical communication earpiece.

I watched a gun video and I've been getting ads on YouTube for a backpack that folds out into body armor.

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Post by DIVx0 »

I'll pile on an anecdote. I still have a facebook account but its not something I use very often except the past week given the situation in the USA.

My facebook account is very old, when i was more of an active user I did all the usual posts/photos that a lot of liberal urban types contribute.

Anyway, after posting some anti-insurrection posts I start noticing all sort of "tacti-cool" gear ads or targeted T-shirt s with some very macho-man hyper masculinity phrases on them.

This is very much _not_ me. Now I keep facebook on a tight leash (FB container, privacy settings turned to max) so my guess is that someone out there is spending a lot of money on a huge ad target or somehow facebook thinks anyone who is posting about a US insurrection would like to participate with some neat military cosplay kit.

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

gadders wrote: post #46
babygoat wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No.

As long as we call this an insurrection as well then: https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/416411-youth-p...

I must have missed the part where they beat a Capitol Police officer to death on their way into the building.
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