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are facebook ads pay per click or pay per impression?

Per click

But it's this weird thing where if the click:impression ratio goes down, the clicks get more expensive (at least in was in ~18 when I last ran them).

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According to modern zeitgeist, if Facebook can't be trusted to moderate their users, Facebook should be deplatformed and shut down. Edit: wow, that blew up. For the record, I don't think Facebook should be shut down, and I don't think Parler should have either. I'm rather anti-social media, so I've never used either. We should have better reasons for doing things, and stick to them. Section 230 exists for a reason.

Facebook's vendors are free to do that. Some might. Some might not. Absolutely their choice, in any context.

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As an anecdote, since July they've started showing me ads for body armor almost nonstop whenever I actually open the app. Just the other day it was a body armor ad then an ad for a tactical communication earpiece.

The clever (as in, psychopathic, but clever) thing for Facebook to do is for them to show you more crazy "The lizard people are taking over, and they're going to eat all of us!" newsfeed stories so that you actually get brainwashed, join the other side, and buy the body armor to join the "Intifada". This way their paying customer, the advertiser, is satisfied...

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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According to modern zeitgeist, if Facebook can't be trusted to moderate their users, Facebook should be deplatformed and shut down. Edit: wow, that blew up. For the record, I don't think Facebook should be shut down, and I don't think Parler should have either. I'm rather anti-social media, so I've never used either. We should have better reasons for doing things, and stick to them. Section 230 exists for a reason.

Parler rented all their infrastructure from companies that get to choose how their infrastructure gets used. Private companies can run themselves as they please. Facebook owns all their own infrastructure and gets the final say on how their infrastructure is used. Private companies can run themselves as they please. If you violate the terms of your rental agreement, your landlord gets to kick you out. If you can't af…

Political alignment or ideology is not a protected class - that's the lone reason they were able to do this. If they would have shut down or refused business to say, a company promoting the interests of Hispanics, the platforms refusing business would have been sued into oblivion. "Private companies can run themselves as they please." is disingenuous, and tossing that statement around carelessly is not aiding discourse. Private companies have rules they have to abide by, just as restaurants do at the moment.

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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As an anecdote, since July they've started showing me ads for body armor almost nonstop whenever I actually open the app. Just the other day it was a body armor ad then an ad for a tactical communication earpiece.

As another anecdote, I've had the same ad targeting for this last week or so. (Which is really unfortunate timing.) At some point I must've clicked on the wrong article while seeing what the "other side" was up to. And now my feed is full of tacticool insurrectionist chic.

The most disconcerting to me was an ad showcasing a "tactical hooded trench coat"[0], with the model holding an AK in the FB ad. I mean, nobody is going hunting, or defending their home, with their tactical hooded trench coat. Seemed pretty squarely targeted at the aspiring insurrectionist crowd.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for letting people buy whatever strange clothes they want. If I have any point here it's that maybe FB doesn't get to claim the moral high ground when they're pushing ads using AKs as props, targeted at the crowd that stormed the capital (also, they need to fix their algorithm if they're pushing them to me).

[0]https://imgur.com/gallery/bxcK7zb

Re: Facebook Has Been Showing Military Gear Ads Next to “Insurrection” Posts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a difference between what happened to Parler (vendors refusing to do business with them) and Facebook (relatively more self reliant).

Isn't Facebook dependent on backbone service providers at their data centers? Are those vendors at liberty to discontinue service? Edit: For a multitude of reasons - money, money, and money - I don't expect any vendors would discontinue service with Facebook. The question is more of a thought exercise.

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