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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by pc86 »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #240
slg wrote: post #133

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Due to the people involved, Parler is almost certainly not a honeypot setup by the FBI, CIA, or some other government organization. However some of the details that have leaked out over the last week made me wonder how little of the site would have changed if that was the intended purpose.

It's pretty well demonstrated that Three Letter Agencies really like enticing idiots people into fantasy situations well above their competency in order to generate terrorism convictions so it's always a possibility even if there's no demonstrable third party malicious action

And in this case there is demonstrable malicious action.

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Post by citizenpaul »

koffiezet wrote: post #542
blacklight wrote: post #512

I personally don't find their ability to remain online that surprising. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building, maintaining and hacking things. People who, even without a solid CS background, would spend hours a day learning new things, developing distributed protocols, evading DNS blocks and hosting their content wherever they could to make it accessible - included…

> The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building Also by people who know that what they were doing was straight-up illegal in a lot of countries, and grey-area in a lot of others. So this was a real risk. Parler on the other hand, at its core was just a social network, and if you look at the founders/owners, they have a very disconnected interpretation of "free speech", so…

disconnected interpretation of "free speech"

Oh yeah whats that comrad?

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Post by ghaff »

meibo wrote: post #548
ghaff wrote: post #502

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Yes. A hard cost limit isn't a hard cost limit unless they start deleting resources like databases which has its own problems. One can imagine a semi-hard cost limit that only cuts off stateless services like EC2 and data egress but AWS apparently just doesn't care enough about courting customers like the GP to implement. I agree that there is some financial risk to using AWS although my understanding is that they're…

A googler recently commented here that, in order to forgive "bigger" bills, you really need to know someone to pull some heavy strings for you - and that it doesn't happen in many cases. This taught me to be very very careful with this stuff, and to not bet on Google or Amazon being nice to me when I am bound to mess something up at some point - because with the complexity these services carry, it's no wonder people…

I do use AWS S3 for storage and it's very cheap for my needs. But I do periodically think about switching to a VPS (or to Backblaze which does let you set a hard cap).

I also help out a small non-profit newspaper mostly operated by students. We're going to need some storage for an archiving project and there's no way in hell I'm going to use AWS for that.

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Post by mkr-hn »

secondcoming wrote: post #472
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #471

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Have you ever been to r/Datahoarder or r/Homelab? 10TB fits on one desktop drive, it's completely pedestrian

I have not. I have one 4TB HD in my machine and I've never come close to filling it!

The raw files off my D5600 are roughly 30MB each. If I took 100 photos a day, I would need +1TB every year to keep all of them. The battery is good for about 600 shots. Someone who does photography professionally can easily blow right past that on one job before accounting for their second shooter's files.

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Post by watwut »

blacklight wrote: post #512

I personally don't find their ability to remain online that surprising. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks were built by people with a passion for building, maintaining and hacking things. People who, even without a solid CS background, would spend hours a day learning new things, developing distributed protocols, evading DNS blocks and hosting their content wherever they could to make it accessible - included…

> Those who believe in conspiracy content are people characterized by a psychological tendency to take shortcuts whenever they can in order to minimize their efforts in learning and understanding new things

I dont think it is that simple. I remember reading finding that smart highly intelligent people are more attracted to conspiracy theories. The complexity of those theories and details those rely on attract them.

Also, I may be wrong here, but I remember reading that Parler was funded by some pretty rich people. If that is true, they should be able to pay for tech know how.

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Post by watwut »

BrandonMarc wrote: post #518
raverbashing wrote: post #410

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Looks like this aged poorly https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293

Indeed. Greenwald helped Snowden; he has the chops to see what's going on. To wit, his subsequent tweet: Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald Jan 11 Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silencing competitors on ideological grounds: just the start.

Afaik, Greenwald was told the above by Parler CEO. Greenwald then proceeded to uncritically believe that.

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Post by watwut »

rendall wrote: post #316
ardy42 wrote: post #292

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> The Hacker Who Archived Parler Explains How She Did It (and What Comes Next) I'm really glad she did that. I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down, but it really needs to be archived somewhere for historical purposes, to help understand this moment. Given the kind of media and political impact Trump's tweets from @theRealDonaldTrump have been, I really hope they're archived at NARA along with the @POTUS twe…

> "I'm fine with all this stuff getting taken down" I understand this on a visceral level, but I wish more people would look beyond that to the implications for communication on the web. This action by Amazon happens to correspond with what I think is right and just on first iteration, but what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with?

> what principle prevents Amazon from arsing some other group that we agree with

Personally I found Amazons response to Parler convincing: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/gov.u...

The question is, why should a company in Amazons situation be unable to turn off that service? As in, your question assumes that Amazon turned off Parler out of nowhere for no reason other then "we dont like them". It assumes they did not had documented reasons, documented attempts to convince Parler to comply to TOS etc.

Otherwise said, contract.

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Post by rconti »

im3w1l wrote: post #181
rconti wrote: post #54

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It seems they generally make the effort to explicitly call for nonviolence and the like. I'm sure these "left wing riot" groups you mention crossed the line before, too, and had comments and pages removed. Hell, notice that Parler got away with it, too until they didn't? There's always a line, and sometimes it gets crossed. Pretending like nothing bad ever happens to group X, and everything bad always happens to grou…

People on the left are constantly calling for and glorifying violence. Non-lethal violence. But still violence. I even saw it here on HN. EDIT: As this is getting downvotes, "punch a nazi" is the most common one, and many many examples can be found on eg twitter.

Yes, this is our political discourse thanks to the president. Comparing the president's insane rants in press conferences to some leftie nut on Twitter, throwing up our hands, and saying "both sides, amirite?"

This rot is leadership rot.

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Post by watwut »

raxxorrax wrote: post #399
kennywinker wrote: post #338

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You can express opinions all you want, but you’re going to have to do a lot of work in order to justify compelling someone to do business with you after you say something they don’t like. Like, amazon isn’t actually the basic infrastructure of the internet. You can build web sites and apps without involving them. So why would a law force them to do business with you?

I try not to do business with companies that censor on political grounds. I don't like politics being banned in a professional context, but I slowly see no other solution. The political alignment of many Parler users isn't a secret and if they decide to measure skulls again, I might be in trouble. Still, I don't see them as a relevant threat at all. It is even more ridiculous as the terrorism scare. However, the acti…

These are Amazon reasons for why they shut down Parler as response to Parler: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.294664...

The reasons are not "they were too much right wing for us". They had multiple reasons, but it is not that long to read.

> On the internet there are calls to violence in any political group, even vegans and cat lovers. We ignore that because they aren't relevant. But if you seriously crack down on cat lovers, you might need to expect real violence.

And vegans and cat lowers do seriously take them down in their forums when those cross the line. And when they discuss cats and food on reddit and reddit deletes accounts of those who threaten violence, the vegans and cat lowers are happily continue to discuss cats and food.

This is bad analogy.

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Post by datavirtue »

minot wrote: post #429
aljarry wrote: post #364

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90$ per TB

Is there still no easy straightforward way in $current_year to put an absolute spend cap of say USD 0, USD 5, or USD 10 per month on Amazon.com web services or Google Cloud Platform? I’d think I’d like to prepay a fixed dollar amount like USD 200 IF I anticipate some major event but really this is problematic for students. I just want to use the free tier. Why is this so hard?

I pay $500 a year and get $100 a month on Azure in addition to Enterprise 365 (5 users) and numerous licenses for Microsoft software. I host all my sites there and have spending capped just in case egress or database goes out of control.

Microsoft partner program. Anyone can join.

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