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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by w_t_payne »

enriquto wrote: post #404
Ntrails wrote: post #402

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anyhow, if your image shows recognizable landmarks with shadows, then it will be feasible to recover the exact point of view and the time of acquisition. With what level of accuracy? Are you claiming you can confidently assert 2020-12-21 15:12 over, say, 2020-12-22 15:15 via shadows

> confidently assert 2020-12-21 15:12 over, say, 2020-12-22 15:15 via shadows Not at all. By visual inspection you can see whether it's the morning or the afternoon (if you know the orientation of the landmarks). I guess by image processing you could get a precision of +- 1h maybe?

How precise is a sundial? How high is the resolution of the camera? I'd imagine that on a bright sunny day with a high resolution camera showing clean sharp shadows, it'd be possible to get a precision much better than +/-1h.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by asiando »

secondcoming wrote: post #426
philshem wrote: post #405

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They were downloading at 50 Gbps for a while https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348497204940595201 https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348440720504401921 Also, auth provider (twilio?) removed Parler as a client so for a short while it was possible to create accounts without a phone number (2FA). https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348298836930867204 edit: okta, free trial, thanks: https://news.ycombinator.com/…

She is probably liable for that data egress bill. Also, how does some randomer have ten of terabytes of disk lying around?

Given the speed I’m guessing it was towards S3 so there’s plenty of terabytes.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by gerikson »

secondcoming wrote: post #426
philshem wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were downloading at 50 Gbps for a while https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348497204940595201 https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348440720504401921 Also, auth provider (twilio?) removed Parler as a client so for a short while it was possible to create accounts without a phone number (2FA). https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348298836930867204 edit: okta, free trial, thanks: https://news.ycombinator.com/…

She is probably liable for that data egress bill. Also, how does some randomer have ten of terabytes of disk lying around?

Wasn't this an ArchiveTeam Warrior project?

https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveTeam_Warrior

If so it's distributed among many volunteers.

But the data still has to end up somewhere... Archive.org?

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by burlesonK »

f430 wrote: post #161
Exmoor wrote: post #157

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Indeed. The level of security failure was pretty incredible. They named media serially (So, pics/1.jpg, pics/2.jpg, etc.) and did not have any validation that you were allowed to access what you were grabbing so it was literally as easy as possible to grab everything. Oh, and did I mention that private messages were also fully accessible?

I am convinced this was an inside job. There is simply no way someone can be this incompetent without willful intent.

I disagree, incompetance is rampant. I worked for a healthcare company who kept it's data at a Dell security center. One of their people ran a SQL script that deleted millions of billing records. They informed us later that they could not recover the data because every 24 hours they were writing over the one backup they kept. We had missed the window by a few hours.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by PeterStuer »

MivLives wrote: post #217
jrochkind1 wrote: post #92

Also embarrassing: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7vqew/the-hacker-who-archiv... > donk_enby had originally intended to grab data only from the day of the Capitol takeover, but found that the poor construction and security of Parler allowed her to capture, essentially, the entire website. That ended up being 56.7 terabytes of data, which included every public post on Parler, 412 million files in all—including 150 m…

I'm curious where someone just gets 56.7 tb of storage that quickly.

The storage isn't that much of a deal, but I bet that was not on some cheap consumer Internet subscription as an ISP would have throttled her into oblivion after the first few TB.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by jonathanstrange »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #372
userbinator wrote: post #84

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CP is one of the very few things where mere possession is illegal. It makes sense that TPB, which is mainly against copyright and IP, would not allow it.

With CP it's also that making distribution harder might disincentivise the creation of the material, so removing it everywhere could have the very real effect of saving actual children. This might be a bit of a naive view on things, considering how some forms of content will always find ways of spreading, but it's still a very strong point to argue that it's different from content like 3D-printable pistol schematics.

It's not a strong point because you can make exactly the same argument for anything else you'd like to ban, including printable pistol schematics, anarchist cookbooks, terrorist propaganda, and so on. It's a cheap truism to say that if something is easily available this will make it more likely for people to become interested in it, will make certain people more inclined towards it, may create a market for it, and so on, than if the same thing was hard to find or not available at all. Yes, probably it will.

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Post by PeterStuer »

asdff wrote: post #308
MivLives wrote: post #217

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I'm curious where someone just gets 56.7 tb of storage that quickly.

work gave us google drive accounts with "unlimited" capacity

You'll find out what 'unlimited' means in SaaS speak very, very much sooner than you expect if you tried really to utilize it.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by secondcoming »

asiando wrote: post #432
secondcoming wrote: post #426

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She is probably liable for that data egress bill. Also, how does some randomer have ten of terabytes of disk lying around?

Given the speed I’m guessing it was towards S3 so there’s plenty of terabytes.

Yes probably. Wherever it is, that provider is in an interesting legal position by holding this data.

Also, I assume there is content from EU citizens in there, and so GDPR violations galore.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by madeofpalk »

zarkov99 wrote: post #45
mike_d wrote: post #33

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For a few thousand dollars a month I operate my own servers in n>1 physical locations with different companies and different transit providers. I figured it out. Pirate Bay figured it out. Any company that genuinely cares about eliminating SPOFs has figured it out.

Perhaps Parler did not realize that being aligned with conservatism was grounds for deplatforming. I am sure they will learn as will the whole world.

"A platform for the deplatformed" was basically their only marketing pitch. They (should of) knew.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by PeterStuer »

kennywinker wrote: post #338
rendall wrote: post #330

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If only there were some principle or value that would somehow... allow us to express opinions even if others - even powerful people, or even the majority of people - disagreed with us. Some kind of inalienable right. Hmm. It is a mystery.

You can express opinions all you want, but you’re going to have to do a lot of work in order to justify compelling someone to do business with you after you say something they don’t like. Like, amazon isn’t actually the basic infrastructure of the internet. You can build web sites and apps without involving them. So why would a law force them to do business with you?

How long ago was it that the 'cloud' vendors proclaimed/advertised that 'In the old days everyone had their own generator, their own well. Now just like electricity or water, you have computing on tap'. Sounds pretty much like a public utility to me and thus should be regulated as one.
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