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Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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This is absurd. Twitter etc are private companies and can do what they want wrt their user's accounts. If they don't want their far-right politicians getting censored, then they can ban those platforms from the country completely. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

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Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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post #15

This is absurd. Twitter etc are private companies and can do what they want wrt their user's accounts. If they don't want their far-right politicians getting censored, then they can ban those platforms from the country completely. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

No, this is absurd. So you would let all media companies censor someone "because they don't like him"? The only reason you trust private media companies is because they are supposed to be as neutral as possible, not political. If not neutral, then perhaps society should start treating them for what they really are - private political machines. Furthermore censorship is stupid. You might like it when it's Trump gettin…

That is a very american take on things...

I am european and I have the exact opposite view:

Public entities are supposed to be neutral, private ones are not.

Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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post #15

This is absurd. Twitter etc are private companies and can do what they want wrt their user's accounts. If they don't want their far-right politicians getting censored, then they can ban those platforms from the country completely. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

A restaurant is a private company and if they don't want to serve blacks and jews they can completely do it.

You see now how absurd that argument is?

Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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post #25
post #15

This is absurd. Twitter etc are private companies and can do what they want wrt their user's accounts. If they don't want their far-right politicians getting censored, then they can ban those platforms from the country completely. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

> they can ban those platforms from the country completely. Can they do that without leaving the EU?

It would go against eu-law, but they can still do it, it haven't stopped them before....

Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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All I see lately is people conflating the right to free speech with the right to be heard . Free speech means that you can't be put in jail for something you say. That's it . But nobody has an entitlement to be amplified . That's not a right. Nobody has the right to unfettered access to someone else's platform. That's never, ever been the case. You never had the right to edit the front page of a newspaper that you do…

As I've said time and time again, people say "free speech" but what they mean is "consequence free speech".

Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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post #15

This is absurd. Twitter etc are private companies and can do what they want wrt their user's accounts. If they don't want their far-right politicians getting censored, then they can ban those platforms from the country completely. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

The Polish fought the Nazis and the Soviets for this cake, though.

Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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post #15

This is absurd. Twitter etc are private companies and can do what they want wrt their user's accounts. If they don't want their far-right politicians getting censored, then they can ban those platforms from the country completely. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

The recent big tech actions call for regulation. The main question is, who is responsible for the content published in specific mediums - users or platforms?

If they put themselves in a position of publishers, then they should fall under specific laws accordingly.

Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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post #15

This is absurd. Twitter etc are private companies and can do what they want wrt their user's accounts. If they don't want their far-right politicians getting censored, then they can ban those platforms from the country completely. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

They can do what they want because that's the law, if the Polish government change the law then they can't. In the US there are also laws regarding discrimination based on race or gender or whatever and private companies must abide by those laws, so it is not that far fetched. The only thing the Polish government add is disallowing discrimination based on opinion and dealing with criminal speech by going to the police, not by being the court and executioner.

Re: Poland plans to make censoring of social media accounts illegal

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post #15

This is absurd. Twitter etc are private companies and can do what they want wrt their user's accounts. If they don't want their far-right politicians getting censored, then they can ban those platforms from the country completely. As the saying goes, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

of course, you can always create your own social platform, and then if some hosting company decides to ban you, you can always create your own, and have own internet as well right?

Surely then it is much simpler/cheaper to ban fascists and delete content that incites violence?

Unless of course... you aren't really a social platform, and what you really want to be is a fascism platform. Parler pretending to be social media is transparent as glass. There's a fabricated narrative that "right wing ideas" are being censored which is simply untrue. Twitter does not care if you post that you think healthcare should be private. But Twitter obviously does care when people start spreading objectively false information with the express aim of inciting violence.

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