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Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by ac29 »

lenkite wrote: post #390

The extraordinary actions taken to bring Sci-Hub down utterly amaze me. Just about every researcher I know uses Sci-Hub. One of the gems that actually make the Internet matter rather than toxic social media. Yet it seems to continually struggle for its daily existence. What laws will need to change (or be revoked) in the US and EU for them to operate legally ? Also, I never clearly understood on why is a trove of pub…

> What laws will need to change (or be revoked) in the US and EU for them to operate legally ?

Copyright laws would needs to be abolished, or new laws made that scientific research cannot be copyrighted (in many cases publicly funded research is already required to made open access, though).

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by ac29 »

jquery wrote: post #275
ajkjk wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems more correct than ever, no?

No. It conflates the principle free speech with a narrow legal reading of the first amendment. Whether on purpose, or accident, I cannot say. The alt-text is also only illuminating in the sense that the CCP might heartily agree with it as well, as they see their crusade against free speech as nothing more than maintaining the public order and peace. In publishing the comic and leaving it up, Munroe has done more to d…

Its worth posting Amazon's legal response here [0]. Its certainly clearly and compellingly argued to me that it was Parler who breached the contract.

Note, there is some potentially upsetting language in this document where Amazon gives examples of the type of content on Parler they deemed to be in violation of the contract. Consider yourself warned, if that sort of thing bothers you.

[0] https://cdn.pacermonitor.com/pdfserver/SGS7Z4Y/137165184/Par...

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by tptacek »

KirillPanov wrote: post #387
buffrr wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what they meant is that with decentralized DNS, it is possible to replace certificate authorities by using DNSSEC + DANE RFC6698[0], but I agree the way it's mentioned is confusing. [0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6698

> with decentralized DNS, it is possible to replace certificate authorities by using DNSSEC In what sense is DNSSEC decentralized? IMHO signing the root zone is about the most-centralizing thing that has ever happened to the Internet.

It is exactly that.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by tasuki »

KirillPanov wrote: post #387
buffrr wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what they meant is that with decentralized DNS, it is possible to replace certificate authorities by using DNSSEC + DANE RFC6698[0], but I agree the way it's mentioned is confusing. [0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6698

> with decentralized DNS, it is possible to replace certificate authorities by using DNSSEC In what sense is DNSSEC decentralized? IMHO signing the root zone is about the most-centralizing thing that has ever happened to the Internet.

That's the thing Handshake is trying to address: with the root zone being on the (decentralized) blockchain, each TLD owner has full control over issuing the certificates for that domain using DNSSEC+DANE. The idea was that this would allow us to get rid of both the centralized root zone and CAs.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by tasuki »

tialaramex wrote: post #364
rasengan wrote: post #358

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With all due respect, this comment reflects a poor understanding of decentralized projects and, particularly, public blockchains. > the owners are ... selling the DNS naming hierarchy The blockchain is providing names in a global namespace owned by the commons. I cannot understand why you have been harassing and stalking this project with troll-like behavior and rude, snarky comments. Let's try to be constructive and…

There are quite a few things I don't agree with tptacek about. But this is just the latest of a long series of hijack attempts for this namespace (the Internet's DNS hierarchy) and it's about time people learned that can't work. Successful namespace hijacks rely on overwhelming numbers. You need to have so many people using your hijacked namespace that you've got way more people who do not even know that it's a hijac…

To be fair, the "hijacked" namespace reserved all the current TLDs for the current owners. Handshake is trying very hard to be backwards compatible and not to break the internet.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by saargrin »

tasuki wrote: post #394
KirillPanov wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with decentralized DNS, it is possible to replace certificate authorities by using DNSSEC In what sense is DNSSEC decentralized? IMHO signing the root zone is about the most-centralizing thing that has ever happened to the Internet.

That's the thing Handshake is trying to address: with the root zone being on the (decentralized) blockchain, each TLD owner has full control over issuing the certificates for that domain using DNSSEC+DANE. The idea was that this would allow us to get rid of both the centralized root zone and CAs.

wouldnt that blockchain grow exponentially ?

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by shakow »

fjabre wrote: post #185
shakow wrote: post #122

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> Or at least laws passed that make the publication of research more open. Sci-hub was created under Obama, I don't remember neither him nor the party making anything to help them, quite the opposite actually: Elbakyan has been judged in absentia and sentenced twice under his presidency. Were she to put the foot on Western soil, she would pay it dearly thanks to this.

Obama failed in this regard. But Obama does not represent all dems. Nor does Obama represent Dems in 2021.

There are no precedents in the Democrats history of exercise of power that would let us hope that Obamas's VP would lead a radically different policy.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by krspykrm »

aplummer wrote: post #350
krspykrm wrote: post #335

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"Prison industrial complex" is verbal sleight of hand to blame a system rather than people, but in reality these market forces are merely the revealed preference of what people want. If people wanted these inmates free - and by wanted I mean wanted in the revealed preference sense, not the virtue signal on the internet sense - capitalism would have them free tomorrow.

> If people wanted these inmates free - and by wanted I mean wanted in the revealed preference sense, not the virtue signal on the internet sense - capitalism would have them free tomorrow. That’s not how the world or capitalism works at all. Plenty of people want things and don’t get them. If you are referring to “a majority of people” then it’s still not how it works - for example the structure of the existing syst…

This is just hand-waving and misdirection. Even China and Russia, who couldn't give a rat's ass about human rights, do not have anywhere near the mass incarceration problem that the US does. No other country has this problem.

All you have to do is go to any Reddit thread and watch Americans cheer about prison rape and masturbate over how if you selectively remove information you can make the crime sound worse than it actually was and use that low-resolution non-central point to justify imprisoning the person for 1827361872 years. I'm sorry dude, it's not corporations, it's not systematic incentives, it's Americans. The American people are the problem.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by tasuki »

saargrin wrote: post #396
tasuki wrote: post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the thing Handshake is trying to address: with the root zone being on the (decentralized) blockchain, each TLD owner has full control over issuing the certificates for that domain using DNSSEC+DANE. The idea was that this would allow us to get rid of both the centralized root zone and CAs.

wouldnt that blockchain grow exponentially ?

Why exponentially? Seems like linear growth to me.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by Mikhail_K »

fernly wrote: post #352
troquerre wrote: post #248

CEO of Namebase here. We posted the original tweet announcing the news[1]. If any of y'all have questions about how sci-hub.hns works or how Handshake works in general I'll be online today to chat! [1] https://twitter.com/NamebaseHQ/status/1348707701744922625?s=...

What does this message mean (from both a Chromium-based browser and Firefox): Σ（ﾟдﾟlll）Something went wrong. sci-hub/ could not be resolved by HNS.to. Please try another Handshake resolver..

Same here. "sci-hub.hns/ could not be resolved by HNS.to. Please try another Handshake resolver.."

Rather poor publicity for "namebase" I'd say

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