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Am I the only one that’s starting to think the US should do this too? I don’t care about censoring any ideas I’m just sick of all the obnoxious people screaming at each other and not changing a single mind in the process.
with an informative top comment from a Ugandan HNer.
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> when the right asks, “how do we know that racism and not crime rates belies police shooting disparities?” This question isn't asked in good faith. Besides, it's actually irrelevant; those deaths are statistics. What was demanded was prosecutions of specific police for specific shootings of specific, named people such as Breonna Taylor. It's up to the white community to decide if police shootings of white people are…
Prosecutions aren't something that should be done by mob demand. In the case of Breona Taylor the police were returning fire. You can question whether they should have served that warrant, but you will never in a million years convict someone of murder when they were returning fire.
Sure you would, if somebody was returning fire after having been the initial aggressor. Suppose I were to break down your door. In many states, you would be justified in defending yourself (Castle doctrine). If I return fire and kill you, I would be guilty of murder. You had a right to defend yourself, and I did not have a right to return fire.
That's the a huge point of the outrage, that whether or not the police announced themselves is in question, and witness reports vary. If the police didn't announce themselves, then there is no way for somebody in the house to determine whether it is a valid warrant being served or a violent home invasion. (Or both.)
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Even that short reply suggests we have very different views on about five big issues. Let's just agree to disagree.
Yeah, what a shocker. The guy who labels their enemies as drooling monkeys has severe disagreements with me.
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>Personally I think these movements are the natural result of pivoting our epistemological institutions from truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy. What institutions are you claiming have shifted from "truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy"? It seems to me that the reason these institutions appear more progressive is that American conservatism is becoming less and less in touch with the truth. The…
> What institutions are you claiming have shifted from "truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy"? It seems to me that the reason these institutions appear more progressive is that American conservatism is becoming less and less in touch with the truth. I think it's a feedback loop at this point, but as for "which institutions", the media and the academy are pretty prominent institutions that have largely come…
I'm also not sure what specifically you are referring to with the "objectivity props up the status quo" line. Do you have examples of institutions using that as an example to lie? Do you have an example of when an organization was able to "demonstrate good faith and a commitment to the truth wherever it leads" that was truly about to change falsely held beliefs of people on the right?
Opposition candidate Bobi Wine had his home raided by the Ugandan military in the middle of a podcast: https://citizentv.co.ke/news/bobi-wine-cuts-short-interview-... https://www.dw.com/en/uganda-presidential-candidate-bobi-win...
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I’m pretty apathetic about these bannings (so hopefully this comment doesn’t read as support or opposition), but “not all conservatives were banned” does not refute “only conservatives were banned”.
Yes it does, as it highlights their conservatism is not what got them banned.
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The “cult” (if you insist) was once much smaller, so something must be driving this phenomenon, which means there is hope that we can stop or even reverse it. What makes people go from believing the media, science, etc to unwarranted skepticism? Specifically, what changed in the last couple of decades that might’ve yielded this result? My pet theory is that our institutions increasingly pivoted from truth-seeking to…
> something must be driving this phenomenon I’m going to go with a repeated exposure to propaganda designed to convince people that the election “WAS RIGGED” and sow distrust in our system of government. The left certainly has some questionable positions, but the “stop the steal” movement is not rooted in fact.
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Yes it does, as it highlights their conservatism is not what got them banned.
No, it doesn't. A rather obvious disproof: Twitter could ban 15% of conservative accounts expressly for being conservative.
Twitter has and will ban zero people for conservative viewpoints. Twitter has and will ban as many people as necessary for content that has the potential to lead to offline harm.
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> What institutions are you claiming have shifted from "truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy"? ...the politicization of basic COVID precautions like mask wearing The most glaring example of this was public health authorities pushing for shut downs of pretty much all public spaces (including of red-coded protests), but then turning around and giving the greenlight to BLM protests as critical to public healt…
>The most glaring example of this was public health authorities pushing for hard shut downs of pretty much all public spaces, but then turning around and giving the greenlight to densely packed BLM protests as critical to public health. The BLM protests weren't the first protests since the pandemic started. There were anti-lockdown protests going on before that which were just as if not even more "greenlit" than the…
No. Public health authorities did not greenlight anti-lockdown protests, as they rightly shouldn't have.
> In the end multiple organizations reported that there were no noticeable COVID spikes related to the BLM protests.
Even if this were the case (I'm skeptical, so I'd be curious to see cites of actual papers), that indicates a failure on the part of public health authorities: they should have been greenlighting the anti-lockdown protests as consistent with public health, so long as participants masked appropriately.
> Care to share a link to a mainstream institution arguing that we should prioritize diversity in vaccine recipients over saving lives?
See e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-vaccine-firs... (non-paywall https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/the-elderly-vs-e...). To jump to the bit in question, ctrl-f "Ultimately, the choice comes down to whether preventing death"