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Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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I’m supportive of free distribution of scientific knowledge, BUT HN has a significant bias against believing in the power of legal systems. No matter how good the technology, it can eventually be censored if the law is strong enough. In the past, it was hard to separate “useful” internet activity from “illegitimate” because things were changing quickly. Today, a government might say its simply illegal to use end to e…

> No matter how good the technology, it can eventually be censored if the law is strong enough. I won't repeat sibling commenters here giving examples of where this is not true (US encryption mainly). I'm wondering if you have any examples of where it is true. What has been censored effectively? As far as I've been aware, legal censorship has never worked. "Cultural censorship" (a.k.a. "taboo") can be quite effective…

I agree that it’s likely impossible to completely sensor information. What is much more feasible is to add so much friction/risk to spreading it, that it defacto is unavailable to 99% of people.

I would argue that legalizing marijuana massively increased consumption (because so much friction and risk went away), legalizing encryption massively increased adoption on the internet (compared to a world where it was formally illegal and ISPs were used to enforce mandatory cleartext), bans on medical drugs without prescription have reduced how much people develop experimental drugs, bans on child porn have massively reduced number of people ever exposed to it, etc.

I think most information bans can be enforced with such high effectiveness that it becomes difficult to consider a society in which that weren’t the case. Much of “regulatory reform” is actually about legalizing and normalizing behavior/information that was always doable but banned. Rarely does the government invent a new type of behavior (patent law is a good example of that).

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Tweet thread on his death that was illuminating for me https://mobile.twitter.com/hides_minimally/status/1348704670...

It's ironic that the author is using the tragic and abusive results of authoritarianism as a means of advocating FOR the very authoritarianism that Aaron Schwartz opposed.

The tweet author? Nah.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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> “The DNS is like a phonebook for the internet. The addresses in the phonebook are the server IP addresses. DNS was created to give IP addresses human-readable names so with our platform, you’re finding the IP address through Handshake, not through a certificate authority ,” Namebase CEO Tieshun Roquerre told CoinDesk. (Emphasis mine.) Did this Namebase CEO just state on record that he doesn’t know how DNS works?

I think the more charitable explanation is that mainstream reporting often contains many misquotes, factual errors and omissions that you will only notice when you are knowledgeable about the subject at hand.

To be forgetful or ignore this when turning the page regarding another subject on which you are less knowledgeable is known as the Gell-Mann amnesia effect [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton#GellMannAmnes...

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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It is worth noting that this is exactly what Aaron Swartz was bullied to his tragic death 8 years and a day ago. May he rest in peace. And kudos to Alexandra. P.S. Corrected the date, seems like I still live in 2020. Thank you, lazyant.

Reddit has conveniently left him out of their about page, despite being a cofounder: https://www.redditinc.com/ About Aaron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

According to the Wikipedia page, he did not join Reddit until 6 months after Reddit launched. He was fired a year later. There is also a tweet from 2011 saying he was not a co-founder: https://twitter.com/alexisohanian/status/93374221685755904

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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I am coming to support the notion that ISPs and Internet Backbone providers should be treated as first class utilities like electrical companies and not be able to deny access except for things like non-payment. Otherwise we do run the risk of a physically balkanized internet.

Stupid question, is this the issue that was at the core of net neutrality? I may have misunderstood the entire thing if so.

it's related. ISPs and telecom in the US do not invest adequately in infrastructure, and the existing infrastructure is overloaded. net neutrality was all about how that infrastructure can be utilized; ISPs want to profit off the scarcity by allowing big companies to pay for priority so that their website would load faster at the expense of everyone else (big companies want this too, and they want it to be expensive, because that increases barrier for entry in a competitive space where they already have an upper hand), but the net neutrality laws used to prevent this sort of bidding for priority.

some ISPs also wanted to sell "internet lite" packages that are cheaper and only allow you to connect to a fixed set of websites. presumably they would also take money off the back end from those websites that want to be in the list.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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> “The DNS is like a phonebook for the internet. The addresses in the phonebook are the server IP addresses. DNS was created to give IP addresses human-readable names so with our platform, you’re finding the IP address through Handshake, not through a certificate authority ,” Namebase CEO Tieshun Roquerre told CoinDesk. (Emphasis mine.) Did this Namebase CEO just state on record that he doesn’t know how DNS works?

> The DNS is like a phonebook for the internet We are going to have to come up with a new metaphor soon. I haven't seen a phonebook in ages. Honestly I would be more likely to tell my kid "Phonebooks were like DNS for telephone numbers."

Dns is like contact app that's managed by a central authority.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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post #5

> “The DNS is like a phonebook for the internet. The addresses in the phonebook are the server IP addresses. DNS was created to give IP addresses human-readable names so with our platform, you’re finding the IP address through Handshake, not through a certificate authority ,” Namebase CEO Tieshun Roquerre told CoinDesk. (Emphasis mine.) Did this Namebase CEO just state on record that he doesn’t know how DNS works?

Newsletter quotes are guaranteed to not be what you said.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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post #57

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Encription was banned in the US but it didn't work out so well. Parler build itself on Amazon which was the big mistake the next company won't follow. It's a wakeup call to anyone using the cloud that one day it might decide you are not welcome.

Encryption was never banned in the US. There have been restrictions on export of encryption technology.

Wasn't it limited to only using weak form of encryption though?

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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This got me, too. >a privacy-focused, cloud-based domain name service resolver which converts IP addresses into domain names. Except for being privacy focused, this literally describes every domain name service in the Internet.

I notice that sentence too. Don't DNS servers convert domain names into IP addresses?

Technically they do both, but domain to IP is the vastly more common usage.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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The first Tweet attempts to coopt the memory of him to legitimize an unsubstantive jab in an ideological battle that is adjacent to academic literature. That's sickening.

Yes, this bothers me so much about whenever people bring him up. He seemed like a brilliant, kind, and unique person, not just a totem of “our side vs your side”

He could be both unless someone actually says 'just ...'.
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