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Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by throwaway889900 »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #61
rasengan wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t require docker! You can install directly on windows, Mac and Linux [1]. This is how I have it running (for the past 8 months)! https://github.com/handshake-org/hsd

I don't see any Windows installation instructions there. Is it really that hard to distribute an application? A statically linked executable, or a portable directory with an executable in it. Thousands of projects do it every day. Why do so many developers insist on making a simple thing like actually running their software so complicated?

The installation instructions say to use npm, which is pretty simple? Everything's javascript anyways.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by cgriswald »

ghaff wrote: post #85
eternalban wrote: post #71

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The word you are looking for is 'directory'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_directory

"Telephone directory" is a term that pretty much no one uses for phonebook.

I’m not sure what the GP means by it being the metaphor to replace phone book (“contacts app” would be my off-the-cuff suggestion), but I’m not that old and I’ve heard it referred to as a directory. I haven’t heard it recently, but that has more to do with the disuse of phone books, I think. Maybe it’s a regional thing?

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Post by toolz »

bluGill wrote: post #78
shivpat wrote: post #65

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Tor - there's always a way

The shut down silkroad. Or whatever it was that tried to use tor to anonymously allow selling illegal products.

Which has been replaced by bigger sites every time they are shutdown and often within the same month.

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Post by metiscus »

metiscus wrote: post #84
marvin wrote: post #12

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We're inching closer to realizing the "reductio ad absurdum" of censorship. Someone actually got censored, and took "well, if you don't like how the DNS does things, you can just make your own!" as a literal challenge. Wonder if this will eventually lead to further fragmentation. Hopefully encryption will keep it out of the lowest levels of infrastructure, I'd hate to see separate fiber lines put down to share contro…

I am coming to support the notion that ISPs and Internet Backbone providers should be treated as first class utilities like electrical companies and not be able to deny access except for things like non-payment. Otherwise we do run the risk of a physically balkanized internet.

Stupid question, is this the issue that was at the core of net neutrality? I may have misunderstood the entire thing if so.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by whimsicalism »

fjabre wrote: post #46
acdha wrote: post #19

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Elsevier and Wiley have a lot of lawyers who are likely arguing that leaving it up is condoning copyright infringement. There’s a long history of threats for anything related to targets of these lawsuits, and other companies taking something offline quickly to avoid being caught in the crossfire.

Hopefully with Dems in control we will see these companies punished for their bad behavior. Or at least laws passed that make the publication of research more open. The science should be funded and free. The applications of the science are where the money is to be made. These companies are unnecessary dinosaurs from a bygone era. It's time for them to fail and die off naturally. But it will probably take legislation…

> Hopefully with Dems in control we will see these companies punished for their bad behavior.

There's optimism, and then there is naiveté.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by simias »

lucideer wrote: post #83
obblekk wrote: post #38

I’m supportive of free distribution of scientific knowledge, BUT HN has a significant bias against believing in the power of legal systems. No matter how good the technology, it can eventually be censored if the law is strong enough. In the past, it was hard to separate “useful” internet activity from “illegitimate” because things were changing quickly. Today, a government might say its simply illegal to use end to e…

> No matter how good the technology, it can eventually be censored if the law is strong enough. I won't repeat sibling commenters here giving examples of where this is not true (US encryption mainly). I'm wondering if you have any examples of where it is true. What has been censored effectively? As far as I've been aware, legal censorship has never worked. "Cultural censorship" (a.k.a. "taboo") can be quite effective…

Squashing something completely is extremely difficult, but you can make it inconvenient and risky enough that most people won't bother. See the Chinese internet for instance.

There's often this fallacy when discussing governmental action that if it's not 100% effective it's useless. It's of course not true.

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by Bancakes »

rasengan wrote: post #48
Triv888 wrote: post #10

Didn't last long? > sci-hub.hns/ could not be resolved by HNS.to. Please try another Handshake resolver..

It resolves for me! Try installing a handshake resolver directly like hsd [1] for full chain or hnsd [2] for SPV. [1] https://GitHub.com/handshake-org/hsd [2] https://GitHub.com/handshake-org/hnsd

Neither of those have binary releases. I just wanted to install some handshake addon to nextdns and visit sci hub. Is this possible at all or is there non-zero configuration required?

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by rpdillon »

thesuitonym wrote: post #99
emacdona wrote: post #22

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Followed by this: 'Handshake is “is effectively a decentralized domain name server,” Roquerre said.' -- thus implying that DNS is NOT decentralized? The article is pretty bad. For his sake, I hope they are taking his quotes out of context. Because I had a quick look at https://www.namebase.io/ -- and it does look interesting. It appears that they have decentralized the REGISTRY by putting it on the "Handshake" blockc…

This got me, too. >a privacy-focused, cloud-based domain name service resolver which converts IP addresses into domain names. Except for being privacy focused, this literally describes every domain name service in the Internet.

I notice that sentence too. Don't DNS servers convert domain names into IP addresses?

Re: Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

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Post by dmingod666 »

fjabre wrote: post #46
acdha wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elsevier and Wiley have a lot of lawyers who are likely arguing that leaving it up is condoning copyright infringement. There’s a long history of threats for anything related to targets of these lawsuits, and other companies taking something offline quickly to avoid being caught in the crossfire.

Hopefully with Dems in control we will see these companies punished for their bad behavior. Or at least laws passed that make the publication of research more open. The science should be funded and free. The applications of the science are where the money is to be made. These companies are unnecessary dinosaurs from a bygone era. It's time for them to fail and die off naturally. But it will probably take legislation…

Like how the opioid crisis was handled.. democrats and Republicans are exactly the same thing. American politics is WWE with old people in formal clothes..
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