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Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tough-times-ahead-for-Intel-in...

these new chip is based on 10nm. this article say "Intel's current 10 nm yields are nowhere near viable for “full production”"

that's from 4 weeks ago. did Intel fix their yields problem in 4 weeks?

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

#32

Can someone who knows about processor design summarize this for me? Will intel have a comeback or is it all about ARM/AMD now?

I assume some could actually answer your question with respect to designm but you would be asking the wrong question. Intel's main competitor is not ARM or AMD. It is TSMC's ecosystem. Which is ex-CEO Morris Chang calls it the Grand Alliance.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

#34

45W hardly strikes me as "mobile". That's in the realm of laptops with fans and big batteries, right? I figured a "mobile" processor would need a maximum TDP of 15W or less.

They get used in laptops like DELL XPS 13, MBP 13 and that class of laptop as well as larger.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

#35
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intel getting TSMC to build some of its chips is also I think a way to constrict AMD supply rather than them actually needing the production

While I can totally believe Intel doing it for that reason alone - Isn't Intel only buying 7nm capacity while AMD is already moving to 5nm?

No, Apple have exclusivity on TSMC 5nm currently

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

#36

45W hardly strikes me as "mobile". That's in the realm of laptops with fans and big batteries, right? I figured a "mobile" processor would need a maximum TDP of 15W or less.

Mobile in this context refers to mobile computing, an area ranging from large laptops to smart watches.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

#37
post #16

From this article: https://wccftech.com/intel-launches-tiger-lake-h-tgl-h-mobil... Intel say they have the fastest single threaded performance of any laptop processor. They show a graph of a benchmark of something called SPECRATE * 2017_int_base compiled with the Intel compiler. Does the Intel compiler still hamstring AMD? Also is this benchmark useful in real world usage?

huh, looking at that chart.. I just can't help but think..

Is there a bar missing there? Just one bar, maybe just two letters?

Perhaps even running in x86 emulation?

Hardcore borders on false advertising.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

#38

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tough-times-ahead-for-Intel-in... these new chip is based on 10nm. this article say "Intel's current 10 nm yields are nowhere near viable for “full production”" that's from 4 weeks ago. did Intel fix their yields problem in 4 weeks?

A 45W laptop chip isn't a full production item ;) Most modern laptops use a much lower wattage part.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

#39
post #4

Can someone who knows about processor design summarize this for me? Will intel have a comeback or is it all about ARM/AMD now?

The thoughts of reviewers based on their claims is that likely you will get something that is competitive with current gen ryzen mobile (4900h on the high end) on power usage/perf and competitive with m1 on perf, but not power usage. However, I don't see them drawing even with Apple on power efficiency, and AMD have their Zen 3 mobile chips in the near future, so it's more a holding on in technical quality. Likely th…

Their perfromance claims will result in M1 multicore level probably with more cores but nowhere close in single core regardless of their shockingly false single core claims.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fastest Laptop Processor (Single Thread) On The 10nm SuperFin Process That last part of the title would seem to imply that it's not the fastest overall. Wonder what are: 1. the fastest overall 2. the fastest overall single thread 3. the fastest overall on the 10nm SuperFin process

Currently (and for laptop CPUs specifically) 1. AMD Ryzen 4900H 2. Apple M1, though the Intel 10875H is pretty much the same perf (though at 3x the power usage) 3. Only Intel uses this, so whatever Intel's fastest chip on this process is. That said, it varies by use cases, and M1 leans heavily on accelerators so has big wins in some and big losses in others when compared the 4900H or 10875H, which are closer to each…

> 2. Apple M1, though the Intel 10875H is pretty much the same perf (though at 3x the power usage)

In single core? At least by Geekbench (clearly not the best test) it is shown to be more than 25% slower than M1.

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