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Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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Post by studius »

FrozenVoid wrote: post #5
ipeefreely wrote: post #2

Can someone who knows about processor design summarize this for me? Will intel have a comeback or is it all about ARM/AMD now?

WCCFtech has a better article with image summaries. https://wccftech.com/intel-launches-tiger-lake-h-tgl-h-mobil...

> Fastest Laptop Processor (Single Thread) On The 10nm SuperFin Process

That last part of the title would seem to imply that it's not the fastest overall.

Wonder what are:

1. the fastest overall

2. the fastest overall single thread

3. the fastest overall on the 10nm SuperFin process

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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Post by tutfbhuf »

gameswithgo wrote: post #10
ENOTTY wrote: post #9

Intel's 10nm SuperFin process at 5 GHz is quite impressive. Clocks like that, combined with the core improvements, should allow Intel to compete on performance and core count.

its good, but amd will have zen4 at 5nm soon, does intel have a node shrink coming soon, and can they execute?

> does intel have a node shrink coming soon, and can they execute?

Yes since years, no.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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Post by Grazester »

xbmcuser wrote: post #8
Macha wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thoughts of reviewers based on their claims is that likely you will get something that is competitive with current gen ryzen mobile (4900h on the high end) on power usage/perf and competitive with m1 on perf, but not power usage. However, I don't see them drawing even with Apple on power efficiency, and AMD have their Zen 3 mobile chips in the near future, so it's more a holding on in technical quality. Likely th…

Intel getting TSMC to build some of its chips is also I think a way to constrict AMD supply rather than them actually needing the production

Well if this is the case it would not be inconsistent with Intel's usual AMD sabotage.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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Post by Jonnax »

From this article: https://wccftech.com/intel-launches-tiger-lake-h-tgl-h-mobil...

Intel say they have the fastest single threaded performance of any laptop processor.

They show a graph of a benchmark of something called SPECRATE * 2017_int_base compiled with the Intel compiler.

Does the Intel compiler still hamstring AMD?

Also is this benchmark useful in real world usage?

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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Post by breakfastduck »

melling wrote: post #13
anovikov wrote: post #7

Who cares. Give me a 16" m1 mbp.

Competition is good. Everyone should want Intel to perform at a high level.

Yeah I've never understood the attitude of wanting someone like Intel to fail.

If they start pushing back with strong performing CPUs it will only increase competition and help push Apple and AMD even further.

Not sure why people think an AMD monopoly would be any better than the intel we've seen over the past 5 years.

If they lose their main competitor they'd take their foot off the gas on performance / process improvements & start to focus more and more on the bottom line alone, it's just natural.

Re: Intel’s 8-Core Mobile Tiger Lake-H, at 45 W, to Ship in Q1

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Post by zamadatix »

ipeefreely wrote: post #2

Can someone who knows about processor design summarize this for me? Will intel have a comeback or is it all about ARM/AMD now?

I would put it more as "Intel didn't do poorly this round" if all holds true to the information we have so far. AMD still hasn't overtaken them in low core count performance in the laptop space and this should hold them off from doing that until at least Zen 4 (late Fall-ish or so) or open Intel up more time to continue changing its momentum if Zen 4 falters any. In this space the M1 is still miles ahead both (i.e. AMD/Intel can generally match the performance or the power budget with their latest designs but the M1 can do both at the same time). On the desktop side the Rocket Lake S should just eek out Zen 3 on single core performance albeit ~6 months (or about half a product cycle) later. Certainly good news for Intel as it keeps them from being steamrolled in a single year but that means AMD still has higher momentum, a time advantage on the next release, a guarantee that TSMCs new 5nm process they want to use works (as used in the M1), and a significantly better many core position.

AMD has their presentation shortly but I wouldn't expect more than news on Zen 3 mobiles (which may dampen Intel's presentation a bit but probably won't outdo them) and Zen 3 Epyc (server, likely to wipe the floor) this early into it on the CPU side.

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