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Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by NotPavlovsDog »

grep_name wrote: post #52
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #31

Long-overdue legislation and increased activism, including activism by the tech community, and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data, are some of the possible mitigation steps. A simple first step: send an article on digital privacy, that you like, to your network and invite them to get back to you with questions they have. A possible start: EFF have an excellent privacy hub https://www.e…

You're doing a great thing for your teen. Have you ever considered hosting a cryptoparty[1]? I just learned about these recently and found out the makerspace in my city used to do one every third thursday, but stopped sometime a few years ago. I've been thinking about getting in touch with whoever used to host it to see about starting it up again [1] https://www.cryptoparty.in/organize/howto

At the current state of events, in-life meetings are low on my priority list, but this would be fun to do at some point in the future. I have not seen that resource before, thank you for sharing, it appears to be a great starting point!

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by NotPavlovsDog »

badjeans wrote: post #58
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #31

Long-overdue legislation and increased activism, including activism by the tech community, and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data, are some of the possible mitigation steps. A simple first step: send an article on digital privacy, that you like, to your network and invite them to get back to you with questions they have. A possible start: EFF have an excellent privacy hub https://www.e…

> and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data I don't get it. What's the danger?

consider starting with the EFF privacy resource linked in my top comment.

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by tanjtanjtanj »

cbozeman wrote: post #24
ecmascript wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely disagree, I am ~30 and I believe my generation strongly dislikes woke culture and people younger than me hates it with all their hearts, except for a rare few that is into it. The main pushers of woke culture, imo, is my parents generation and generally people older than 40. My generation cares a lot more about facts than the boomer generation which cares a lot more about feelings. That is why when selli…

> my generation strongly dislikes woke culture and people younger than me hates it with all their hearts, except for a rare few that is into it. My nephew has a totally different take on this... he's graduating from UT Austin, and I know that's a very liberal campus, but he's also persona non grata, being a 22 year old straight white male who got his Dad's 9/11 G.I. Bill and grew up in thoroughly middle class / lower…

As someone whose time at UT Austin overlapped your nephew's and who has opportunity to work on campus with UT students regularly, my experience is nothing like his.

Being a middle/upper class straight white male does not make you a persona non grata. On the Contrary, due to the automatic admission requirements the most common person you'll meet on campus is an upper/middle class person from a Houston suburb.

I've never encountered the "white men being the source of the world's problem" thing in person at any point, only in characterizations online and in some people blaming some perceived slight or disadvantage on it. I even took a wide range of the "softer" liberal arts courses to supplement my CS education.

I also disagree with UT Austin being a particularly liberal campus beyond a typical college campus. Austin itself is plenty liberal compared to the average city in Texas but again, due to the automatic admission requirements, UT is really a fairly average distribution of upper/middle class people throughout Texas.

I've also had more professors try to sell me on the ministry of Jesus (3, insistently) than on any sort of leftist politics (1, in my Eastern Philosophy course) and had one professor that moved to UT Austin after being ejected from his prior university for in his words "being too conservative".

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by drieddust »

kebman wrote: post #27
bilekas wrote: post #7

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So this OP's article is obsolete now ?

Obsolecense assumes that something has become outdated. If you did something morally reprehensible, then it doesn't become outdated unless you apologize and promise that you'll never do it again, or that you in the least admit that you made a mistake. I do not know if Facebook did that before ending their contract. Either way people and companies who misuse trust like that still deserve criticism. That's the only way…

Exactly and I am sure all the people who logged into FB have not died off or moved into a jungle so they are still targets.

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by NotPavlovsDog »

McDyver wrote: post #46
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #31

Long-overdue legislation and increased activism, including activism by the tech community, and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data, are some of the possible mitigation steps. A simple first step: send an article on digital privacy, that you like, to your network and invite them to get back to you with questions they have. A possible start: EFF have an excellent privacy hub https://www.e…

This is a good idea. I'm assuming you're in the US; in Europe, how to talk to people who are not "privacy-inclined", and who think GDPR was the silver bullet that automagically stopped all privacy abuse by each and every company? I feel I'm fighting a losing battle where everyone is Winston Smith, and [spoiler]loves Big Brother[/spoiler]

I think it depends on who you are talking to... you know them better than me.

Sometimes leaving out the big concerns and bringing up the concept of the "digital trace" may be a good start, bringing up relevant cases.

Even if they think and say "the idiots deserved it, I have nothing to hide", the seed still gets planted.

A neighbor I have that supported surveillance and likes to share his hunting images was surprised when I showed him that his images could be traced back to his home address, which he absolutely did not want. He started asking for help with digital privacy issues after that and has even contacted his political representative about his concerns. He has shared this new-gained knowledge in his circuit, and so it spreads...

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by Abhinav2000 »

higerordermap wrote: post #59
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #31

Long-overdue legislation and increased activism, including activism by the tech community, and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data, are some of the possible mitigation steps. A simple first step: send an article on digital privacy, that you like, to your network and invite them to get back to you with questions they have. A possible start: EFF have an excellent privacy hub https://www.e…

Off topic, but I thought I should share this joke someone sent me: CALLER: Is this Pizza Delight? GOOGLE: No sir, it's Google Pizza. CALLER: I must have dialed a wrong number. Sorry. GOOGLE: No sir, Google bought over Pizza Delight last month. CALLER: OK. I would like to order a pizza. GOOGLE: Do you want your usual, Sir? CALLER: My usual. Do you know me? GOOGLE: According to your caller ID data sheet, the last ten t…

Great post, laughed throughout and it also is scarily not far from the truth

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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higerordermap wrote: post #59
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #31

Long-overdue legislation and increased activism, including activism by the tech community, and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data, are some of the possible mitigation steps. A simple first step: send an article on digital privacy, that you like, to your network and invite them to get back to you with questions they have. A possible start: EFF have an excellent privacy hub https://www.e…

Off topic, but I thought I should share this joke someone sent me: CALLER: Is this Pizza Delight? GOOGLE: No sir, it's Google Pizza. CALLER: I must have dialed a wrong number. Sorry. GOOGLE: No sir, Google bought over Pizza Delight last month. CALLER: OK. I would like to order a pizza. GOOGLE: Do you want your usual, Sir? CALLER: My usual. Do you know me? GOOGLE: According to your caller ID data sheet, the last ten t…

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Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by cambalache »

eternalban wrote: post #38
cbozeman wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corporations adhering to 'woke' politics / ethics is a result of this overprotectedness that the most recent generation was subjected to. Jonathan Haidt has a lot of great work in this area. He mentions how things started to shift in earnest around 2015, and I gotta tell you, having left college at 2013, I definitely agree. I started seeing rumblings of it around that time. Eventually those people leave university an…

> a lot of corporations are so terrified of losing a single nickel, that they'll support whatever trend of the moment they need to, to protect their profits. This speculation doesn't really add up considering the historic behavior of corporations in context of the feelings of their employees, or threats to their bottom line because of employees. One rule of thumb for detecting agency (if any) behind any major social…

> This speculation doesn't really add up considering the historic behavior of corporations in context of the feelings of their employees, or threats to their bottom line because of employees.

On the contrary, this reinforces the idea. Big companies fuck their employees from time to time not because they are meanies, but because they think they will make money that way. If you offered all the companies a Faustian agreement of triplicating their earning but they have to support racism (with no other consequences) they will do it in a heartbeat.That's why so irritating the magnificient coup they've made in the last 5-10 years to put themselves at the forefront of "social issues", if they can control the discourse there is less chance that people will question all the bad stuff they do.

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