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Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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kebman wrote: post #27
bilekas wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this OP's article is obsolete now ?

Obsolecense assumes that something has become outdated. If you did something morally reprehensible, then it doesn't become outdated unless you apologize and promise that you'll never do it again, or that you in the least admit that you made a mistake. I do not know if Facebook did that before ending their contract. Either way people and companies who misuse trust like that still deserve criticism. That's the only way…

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Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by fsflover »

NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #31

Long-overdue legislation and increased activism, including activism by the tech community, and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data, are some of the possible mitigation steps. A simple first step: send an article on digital privacy, that you like, to your network and invite them to get back to you with questions they have. A possible start: EFF have an excellent privacy hub https://www.e…

> 1. "It turns out that Facebook also buys data about your offline purchases.

Off-Facebook activity (https://www.facebook.com/off_facebook_activity/)

710 points by bigbaguette 11 months ago | un‑favorite | 382 comments

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22178917

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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gbersac wrote: post #10
ecmascript wrote: post #9

Facebook is one of these companies that are so disconnected with their user base they cannot even comprehend why people are upset. The best part about facebook is that they think they're so freaking good, lecturing others about how to speak and act while themselves doing the opposite. Corporate double speak, the main thing I hate about woke culture.

People don't use Facebook because it won't share their data. I'm pretty sure most Facebook user suspect Facebook does it more than it actualy does. People use Facebook because it is efficient at connecting people. The "won't share your data" part is very secondary to that.

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Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by Miner49er »

Wasn't the reported reason for the Tik Tok ban that we don't want them to have our data? Yet an American company with some of the most data on American citizens was already info with China.

So this begs the question, what is the real reason for the Tik Tok ban?

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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izacus wrote: post #19
griffoa wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A H̶u̶a̶w̶e̶i̶ CCP spokesperson said: "Like all leading smartphone providers, H̶u̶a̶w̶e̶i̶ CCP has worked with Facebook to make Facebook's services more convenient for users. H̶u̶a̶w̶e̶i̶ CCP has never collected or stored any Facebook user data." How does it sound now?

About the same as: "Trumps NSA spokesperson said all the data collected remained on users' phones not servers." Let's not do the moral arguments at the tail end of Trump regime in America, shall we?

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Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by McDyver »

NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #31

Long-overdue legislation and increased activism, including activism by the tech community, and ongoing informing of consumers about dangers of sharing their data, are some of the possible mitigation steps. A simple first step: send an article on digital privacy, that you like, to your network and invite them to get back to you with questions they have. A possible start: EFF have an excellent privacy hub https://www.e…

This is a good idea.

I'm assuming you're in the US; in Europe, how to talk to people who are not "privacy-inclined", and who think GDPR was the silver bullet that automagically stopped all privacy abuse by each and every company?

I feel I'm fighting a losing battle where everyone is Winston Smith, and [spoiler]loves Big Brother[/spoiler]

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by pluc »

Miner49er wrote: post #44

Wasn't the reported reason for the Tik Tok ban that we don't want them to have our data? Yet an American company with some of the most data on American citizens was already info with China. So this begs the question, what is the real reason for the Tik Tok ban?

Likely because they wouldn't play ball with the then-Tweeter-in-Chief.

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by londons_explore »

greatgirl wrote: post #40
londons_explore wrote: post #12

What data was shared? Simple data of "users of the facebook app on your devices spent ~1 hour per day on the app" sounds like legitimate data to share to decide how much facebook should pay for the privilege of being preinstalled. I can see how the companies involved need to see the data to audit it. As long as that was the scope, that sounds fine.

It's pretty naive to think this is the extent of it. They didn't make a billion dollars by sending people information about how much time you spent on the app. They analyse your chats and posts to see what kinds of things you're interested in so they can build a sort of 'person data structure' full of data points unique to you that they can package up and sell to advertisers. This is just my best guess anyway, based…

I'm sure Facebook does that kind of analysis.

I just doubt they'd be happy to share that analysis (or the data behind it) with phone manufacturers.

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by kube-system »

Miner49er wrote: post #44

Wasn't the reported reason for the Tik Tok ban that we don't want them to have our data? Yet an American company with some of the most data on American citizens was already info with China. So this begs the question, what is the real reason for the Tik Tok ban?

This article was from 2018. Since this article, Huawei has also been sanctioned.

Re: Facebook confirms data-sharing agreements with Chinese firms, including Huawei (2018)

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Post by jonp888 »

Only on Hacker News could an out of date 2 year old article about Facebook be the no.1. story.

Less popular articles posted around the same time include Intel's announcement of a new processor, a new prototype operating system, and a plan to create a vaccine against AIDS.

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