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CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Re: CD Projekt Red is under investigation

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Post by dx87 »

bendoerr wrote: post #30
gabereiser wrote: post #10

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At its core it’s a decent game. The issue is with so many bugs (many of which preventing a player from finishing a story quest) it’s hard to focus on the game when your copy keeps crashing, glitching, frustrating you.

Do you have an example of a bug that prevents quest completion? I've been lucky enough to not run into a single one during my 100+ hours so far and I've been trying to do every quest. I worry that these things keep getting said without people actually experiencing them. I have several friends playing on PS4 without the reported crashes. Not saying you haven't, I just don't have any direct knowledge of the issues that…

I only ran into one bug that prevented quest completion. Near the beginning of the game, there is a quest where you and Jackie have to pick up some equipment then fight your way out of the building. On my first attempt, Jackie got stuck in combat because he didn't recognize a dead as enemy as being dead, so he wouldn't leave the building for me to talk to him and finish the quest.

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Post by jjoonathan »

hcnews wrote: post #45
Reedx wrote: post #6

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It's mostly that the loudest, angriest voices tend to drown out everyone else.

Active steam users for this game dropped much faster than that of Witcher 3 (which was similarly/less flawed at launch) based on public steam data. So, there's lot of evidence behind the message. Anecdotally, the players I knew have stopped playing it altogether due to a variety of issues.

W3 was released in May of a non-pandemic year. CP2077 was released in December in a pandemic year.

The game-hours-to-calendar-days translation won't be 1:1.

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Post by yulaow »

haunter wrote: post #32
warpech wrote: post #2

It seems that everybody seems to hate this game, or rather unfinishedness of it. Meanwhile, I am playing it since 2 weeks on PS4 (not Pro) and totally enjoying every minute it.

I have the PS4 version (yes, base not Pro) and it's 900p-720p dynamically switching and 25fps, maybe 30 in better cases. Which is utter trash. It's like watching movies in 360p on Youtube. Or listening to music in 64kbsp. On top of that the story doesn't save the game either which is mediocre at best especially compared to what was promised. Then look at Ghost of Tsushima or RDR2 on the same console.

Same experience for me. It caused so much migraines, eyes pain and nausea that I had to stop playing it. Never had a game capable of switching so fast and erratically in the range 900p-700p and 28-15 fps to actually cause physical symptoms on my body.

I got a refund, bought the xbox version and played on xbox series s and it was actually pretty good even with graphics clearly "old gen"-level compared to the pc version.

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Post by krzyk »

maccard wrote: post #25
jonathanyc wrote: post #8

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I’ve been playing it through Stadia (wanted to try out Stadia and Cyberpunk at the same time) and I agree people are hating on the game seemingly way out of proportion. It’s definitely buggy, I had to restart at one point because the game refused to allow me to reload in the middle of a fight, but claiming it’s fraud or “unplayable” is hyperbole. I think people just got way too excited about from having nothing to do…

Have you seen the game played on a base PS4? [0] is a timestamp to skip the beginning of a digital foundry video. It's really not in a good place. [0] https://youtu.be/C5pHpQqhmR4?t=160

So why there are so many PS4 players that play and enjoy it?

Look in the comments here.

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Post by threeseed »

enahs-sf wrote: post #19
Pfhreak wrote: post #14

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The problem isn't releasing a broken game. There's a huge challenge in making and releasing games and meeting a specific quality bar. That said, knowing you have a broken game and saying it's great is extremely avoidable and totally should stop. Tell me the game is a mess and let me play with it.

Having played Cyberpunk on a PS4 and then a PS5, It is nowhere near what you'd expect from a AAA title in terms of quality. Had to stop playing it because it's not worth it to ruin the experience. I can only imagine what the folks at Rockstar are thinking about this launch and what they can take away from it.

> I can only imagine what the folks at Rockstar are thinking

I imagine they are thinking the same thing since GTA5 Online was released.

Why even bother making new games when you can just drip feed some DLC every now and again and continue to print billions.

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Post by ceilingcorner »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #47
ceilingcorner wrote: post #40

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The audience of gamers strikes me as perhaps the most immature, needlessly difficult group of art consumers in the world today. Even movies don’t get the same kind of petulant obsession and hostility that games do. I’m not sure if it’s just a consequence of gamers being younger or what, but it’s a major turnoff to me. The fact that CDPR devs got death threats because of game delays just says it all. Can you imagine s…

> The audience of gamers strikes me as perhaps the most immature, needlessly difficult group of art consumers in the world today. Even movies don’t get the same kind of petulant obsession and hostility that games do. I’m not sure if it’s just a consequence of gamers being younger or what, but it’s a major turnoff to me. It's like saying the people who play Call Of Duty online and Visual Novel X or Z are necessarily t…

Virtually all of the jobs in gaming will be for bigger budget games at large companies. The amount of revenue that COD or CDPR makes is vastly greater than any indie games.

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Post by throwanem »

jjoonathan wrote: post #60
ojnabieoot wrote: post #55

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IMO the real issue is less that it’s unfinished and more that the product at its best doesn’t seem to live up to its lofty expectations (disclaimer: have not played it and don’t intend to until it goes on sale, just watched others and read a good number of reviews). From what I understand it’s a fairly anodyne action-RPG, with routine quests, an underwhelming plot, and not too many interesting choices for character d…

> disclaimer: have not played it > routine quests, an underwhelming plot, and not too many interesting choices for character development Come on, man.

You left something out:

> watched others and read a good number of reviews

What's the point of reviews, if not to give people this kind of general sense of a game before they decide whether or not to buy it? Why else would AAA studios be so anxious to impose and enforce pre-release embargos, except to reduce the risk of the preorder hype and FOMO being in any way ameliorated by reality?

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Post by outworlder »

kissickas wrote: post #24
jonathanyc wrote: post #8

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I’ve been playing it through Stadia (wanted to try out Stadia and Cyberpunk at the same time) and I agree people are hating on the game seemingly way out of proportion. It’s definitely buggy, I had to restart at one point because the game refused to allow me to reload in the middle of a fight, but claiming it’s fraud or “unplayable” is hyperbole. I think people just got way too excited about from having nothing to do…

You're playing on literally the most playable platform there is (the game is even less buggy on Stadia than on latest-gen consoles).

That's very curious given that on Stadia it's a Linux port.

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Post by ceilingcorner »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #63
vlunkr wrote: post #49

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> How? games are probably the most diverse art form in existence today, there is literally no rules to what a game can be. Really? Compared to film, music, visual arts? I would say it's the least diverse of them. It's starting to branch out, especially in the indie scene, but it's still in it's infancy.

> Really? Compared to film, music, visual arts? I would say it's the least diverse of them. It's starting to branch out, especially in the indie scene, but it's still in it's infancy. Yes because gaming actually unify all other art medium without being burdened by their 'rules'. Movies today have clearly defined cinematographic rules, very little professional produced movies can be deemed experimental. Games do not s…

I don’t think you have much knowledge of film if you say “professional produced movies are not experimental.”
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