>If UOKiK finds that CD Projekt Red acting misleadingly ahead of Cyberpunk 2077’s launch, and has not done enough to address the game’s issues, the developer could face a 10 per cent fine of its annual income. I have no idea the merits of this investigation, but it is refreshing to see a potential punishment like this. Fines for bad behavior often end up as simple fees for rich people and businesses. If you want thes…
You might want to look at what happened to Takata. Their defective airbags killed several people, and the end result was that they were forced to pay about 250% of their annual EBIT. It was so much that the company went under.
Seems almost like an unpopular opinion, but I think Cyberpunk 2077 itself is really not that bad.
And on PC, it runs pretty well already.
I think the main issue is the false marketing w.r.t. last-gen consoles. Hyping their product more than they could deliver seems to be the reason they are facing this backlash. But who could condemn them? Others are doing great with this strategy, see e.g. Tesla with their "Autopilot" (last-gen console are some older European roads here).
> I considered going into the gaming industry years ago, but the audience is such a turnoff. I think that the issue isn't so much 'the audience' but the terrible work conditions associated with the gaming industry. > It really holds the medium back as an art form How? games are probably the most diverse art form in existence today, there is literally no rules to what a game can be.
> How? games are probably the most diverse art form in existence today, there is literally no rules to what a game can be. Really? Compared to film, music, visual arts? I would say it's the least diverse of them. It's starting to branch out, especially in the indie scene, but it's still in it's infancy.
> Really? Compared to film, music, visual arts? I would say it's the least diverse of them. It's starting to branch out, especially in the indie scene, but it's still in it's infancy.
Yes because gaming actually unify all other art medium without being burdened by their 'rules'. Movies today have clearly defined cinematographic rules, very little professional produced movies can be deemed experimental. Games do not suffer from these kind of 'academic' considerations.
People get their hopes up too much. I don't mean to "blame the victim" here, but at the same time I read all of the hype machine prior to a release and am not surprised that people are disappointed. Based on the hype and the expectations, nothing but the best game ever made will satisfy the crowd. This is the same for anything that is overhyped. Game of Thrones comes to mind as well. Everyone hated on the last season, but literally no matter what they did, it would be hated on.
People just need to relax, accept that things are imperfect, and enjoy the game once it is patched.
It's a tragedy of the commons situation with gamer enthusiasts acting against their own best interest. If people can't delay gratification for something as inconsequential as "non-broken video games", I don't see how any personal responsibility campaign has any chance of working for things impacting society at large such as climate change, overfishing, public health, etc.
I don't think it's fair to blame this on gamers. With all of the hyperbole over various games being "broken", most people that are hyped about a specific game are just going to buy it and see for themselves. Unless it's literally unplayable (as may actually have been the case here), most people won't refund it. This has been going on for years and years, it's just getting worse over time. It's always some variant of…
> I don't think it's fair to blame this on gamers
That's sort of what I'm alluding to. Personal responsibility doesn't work when you need collective action, so something else needs to step in to fix this. Reminding gamers to not pre-order is pointless.
>If UOKiK finds that CD Projekt Red acting misleadingly ahead of Cyberpunk 2077’s launch, and has not done enough to address the game’s issues, the developer could face a 10 per cent fine of its annual income. I have no idea the merits of this investigation, but it is refreshing to see a potential punishment like this. Fines for bad behavior often end up as simple fees for rich people and businesses. If you want thes…
Why government intervention is necessary is unclear. At best one has an implicit contract during a pre-order, which was violated due to its bugs. That anyone could seriously believe that any complex software will be "bug free" strikes me as risible. It seems to me that people are making a bet on a pre-order. No regulation is necessary in any event: this can be handled using class action law, and true egregious misrep…
I'm not sure how in the weeds you are with this specific issue, but it isn't just that this game wasn't "bug free". It is unfinished in noticeable ways, it doesn't match some of the expectations set by CDPR, and the company took active steps to ensure customers wouldn't know how poorly the game performed on certain hardware. Once again, I don't know if that rises to a criminal level, but this is much more serious than someone not liking a game they preordered.
At its core it’s a decent game. The issue is with so many bugs (many of which preventing a player from finishing a story quest) it’s hard to focus on the game when your copy keeps crashing, glitching, frustrating you.
Do you have an example of a bug that prevents quest completion? I've been lucky enough to not run into a single one during my 100+ hours so far and I've been trying to do every quest. I worry that these things keep getting said without people actually experiencing them. I have several friends playing on PS4 without the reported crashes. Not saying you haven't, I just don't have any direct knowledge of the issues that…
On PS4 I ran into a bug near the end of "The Pickup" mission where Jackie gets stuck inside the All Foods building. The next objective is to talk to him, but once you exit the building you can't re-enter or call him. I had to go back to a previous save a few times. Sometimes the game just crashes and I have to restart the console. There have been some other bugs that I just found funny, like once I was driving and all of a sudden the car was stuck hundreds of feet in the air and I fell and died when I got out. I've been enjoying the game though and the bugs haven't really bothered me too much, but I see how they could.
I fully expect 2077 to be a fantastic game sometime around winter or spring 2022 which is when I'm planning to get it. I get the desire to play something new but I'm only now finishing Witcher 3 and I really enjoy the polished experience.
I was thinking just that, people playing in 2022 will have an awesome experience when everything is fixed.
I hope this will encourage big studios to stop releasing broken games, but I doubt it will. The incentives are just so broken due to ease of patching, a need/desire for cash after a drawn out dev process, and a general disrespect for their customers. I think releasing a "broken" game in the form of "early access" from smaller studios can be good in terms of iterative and community development, but also that can be ab…
> I hope this will encourage big studios to stop releasing broken games
The game wasn't "broken" at all. I've finished it a couple of days ago. It works fine on the PC.
It wasn't a matter of releasing an unfinished game as in the "early access" model like you are describing. It was a matter of deciding to release the game in platforms that were underpowered, like the PS4.
People get their hopes up too much. I don't mean to "blame the victim" here, but at the same time I read all of the hype machine prior to a release and am not surprised that people are disappointed. Based on the hype and the expectations, nothing but the best game ever made will satisfy the crowd. This is the same for anything that is overhyped. Game of Thrones comes to mind as well. Everyone hated on the last season…
D&D and HBO did not repeatedly lie about the contents of the last season of GoT to get high viewership.