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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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GUIs should effectively be finite state machines and people expect them to operate that way. People understand latency and get used to it; it happened on mainframes and other terminal applications and people memorize the state machine and can tab and type through an interface at high throughput anyway. One of the most frustrating experiences is related to the OP; reflow in browsers as new elements load making it impo…

The reflow issues as incredible in the Twitter mobile web, at least for me on Firefox for Android. When you go back from seeing a tweet's replies to the main timeline, it might take up to 5 seconds (or even more) to load some UI elements and reach a steady state. It even scrolls to a different point than where you were before!

On Twitter for Android, I quite often open the app after a while, and the previous state is shown. Super! I start reading a tweet, and then the popup comes at the top that there are new Tweets; at the same time, that very tweet I was reading disappears from the timeline, whilst the tweets around it remain. Why??

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Or when you have the full path name already and want to paste it in to GtkFileChooser. It turns out this is possible, but you'd never know it from the UI.

The Windows folder chooser dialogue has this problem as well.

There's been some changes and refinements since Windows 3.1. The current default file chooser dialogue shipped with Windows allows you to put in a full path into both the top file path or in the Filename dialog.

Reference photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_dialog#/media/File:An_%22...

In this, a full path can be pasted in to both the top bar where it says "This PC > WINDOWS (C:)" and also into the blank "File name: | |" box.

I'm pretty sure I remember this dialogue being available since NT days. It seems fairly discoverable to me, clicking in the empty space of the current working directory path changes it to show the text path of the directory. The "File name" box offers autocomplete if you did something like "C:" as a file name, or started typing a folder name of the current working directory.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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What I'm talking about really has nothing to do with power. Maybe the examples I chose suggested that power dynamics are relevant to my point, but I think they aren't, so here is another example without one: Should an architect refrain from judging Frank Lloyd Wright just because they never worked together? I think certainly not. That seems completely backwards to me. Anybody is entitled to have an opinion on Frank L…

Are you talking about judging his contributions and significance to architecture or his worth as a person? I get that the two things have some overlap and aren't cleanly divisible. What we do is a major part of who we are. But I mean, it's one thing to say "I think it [his architecture] is awful", or even "I think his architecture had a negative impact on people/society/cherished values/whatever" but quite another to…

I am not talking about judging his 'worth as a person'; rather his 'worth as a developer.' Maybe in his private life he's a wonderful person, who knows? Who cares? It is his professional activities that concern people.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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This sure seems accurate to me, from what I've personally observed, but I don't understand what motive they might have. What's the point of controlling popular software by making everybody hate it?

A lot of people like it. Just because there are old timers that cannot move past gnome 2 it do not mean that Gnome 3 is bad. It faster and more polished that KDE. Workspace management and screen real estate is supierior to anything I used.

I believe the 'graying of GNOME' discussed here a few weeks ago is evidence that fewer and fewer people like GNOME each year. New developers would naturally be drawn from the ranks of enthusiastic users. (Why would a developer volunteer their labor for software they don't use and care about?) The graying of GNOME shows that the pool of enthusiastic users has been shrinking since GNOME 3. That's about when GNOME tipped over the edge and started losing developers faster than it gained new ones. The missing new developers would be new developers, not old timers. If it were only old timers who feel alienated, I wouldn't expect GNOME to have trouble recruiting new developers.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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When I read this article yesterday, it occurred to me that this was a specific symptom of what Jamie Zawinski cynically refers to as Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers:

    https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
> I report bugs; they go unread for a year, sometimes two; and then (surprise!) that module is rewritten from scratch -- and the new maintainer can't be bothered to check whether his new version has actually solved any of the known problems that existed in the previous version.

(No clickable link because he doesn’t like Hacker News as a referrer.)

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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This is an issue with X11 which I don't know exactly where it comes from and what causes it. Yes, it has to do with the async nature of it all and I agree it's stupid and it's a miracle the desktop even works. Over time, I've been wondering if Windows dodges this simply by having syscalls that interface with window procedures while Xorg deals horribly with it by being pure userland. Another issue is, there's no mappi…

> This is an issue with X11 What makes you think this is the case? X11 has an ordered event queue and there is no reason an application can't process the keystrokes in the correct order. > Another issue is, there's no mapping of pid X11 window. It's simply impossible with the current design of client-server. What do you need this for? There is _NET_WM_PID [0] which can be set by clients. [0] https://specifications.fr…

_NET_WM_PID is optional, some clients do not set it and even then afaik the server doesn't do any sanity check and the client can set it to anything, making it inherently insecure. This is not good design.

> What makes you think this is the case? Many other ways in which async behavior happens on X11, on any machine I've tried, with the mouse cursor lagging to register a click event, for example.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Gnome seemed always vary bad to me. Missing a lot of convenient features. I used KDE instead which had all the features I expected plus some more that Windows didn't have yet but totally should have. I was always wondering why Gnome is so weird and broken. Why does it exist? Who uses it? I found out when I got my hands on first Macbook in my life. While KDE mirrors Windows, Gnome mirrored some version of MacOS. Using…

I'm going to assume that you didn't spend very long with the system.

I have switched between enough systems to know, that there is always some friction before you discover advantages.

I have also used Windows and Mac in parallel long enough to know that you are objectively wrong.

Okay just kidding - such things are, of course, to a certain level, subjective. But you didn't go into any details, so there's nothing to argue against.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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There's a quote that I think of in situations like this: "Be the change you want to see in the world" - ghandi That said, you can't do that with windows or macosx. Now capitalism works, so apple and microsoft apply the money they make to hard/unsexy things like sleep-wake bug fixes and APIs and sane defaults. But they also bake advertising into their codebase and leech data home to the mothership and prevent you from…

> There's a quote that I think of in situations like this: > "Be the change you want to see in the world" - ghandi Gandhi (spelled thus) never said that. What he did say (in an article about first-aid treatments for snakebites, weirdly enough), was this: > We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in th…

thanks for the clarification. (and apologies, I always put the h in the wrong place)
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