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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by koheripbal »

AniseAbyss wrote: post #707
endymi0n wrote: post #502

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also from the original article: "On November 5, 2020, Twitter permanently suspended Bannon after he called for Dr Anthony Fauci to be beheaded in an episode." It's good they finally pulled the trigger, but considering that Steven Bannon has been constantly putting oil to the fire on every single channel available, that point was very certainly much earlier.

Deplatforming works. That's why they are upset. Now when normal people scroll through YT they won't see 4chan content.

It works for the moment, but regardless of how you feel about the ethical debate here, the reality is that censorship resistant platforms will emerge to cater to the growing population of deplatformed/censored/banned/cancelled content creators and participants.

Whatever form that innovation takes, I wonder if it will ultimately be the new standard and we'll all ultimately be on it and be facing the same problem again.

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Post by bJGVygG7MQVF8c »

bryan0 wrote: post #13

The headline has important context: “YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel hours after Rudy Giuliani appeared on an episode and blamed the Capitol siege on Democrats” At some point the lies need to stop.

He said there were Antifa agents provocateur who catalyzed the violence — is that false? What evidence do you have? Have you seen the video he's referring to?

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Post by MrMan »

TheGRS wrote: post #448
Darmody wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you believe Fox News should be banned/censored? What about CNN? They are as biased as Fox News.

I couldn't give a shit about CNN and I imagine most on here who don't watch Fox would say the same.

I don't watch any cable news or any TV except old movies

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Post by sjwright »

thrwawy12345 wrote: post #628
ttt0 wrote: post #607

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If it was truly irrelevant, Twitter wouldn't censor it. They even locked out the New York Post out of their account for posting about it. Biden is in the politics for decades, there is more then plenty of pretty damning evidence to show that, at the very best, he doesn't believe in anything he says. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xXx0yUvSw

Yea. I haven't followed the "election theft" narrative too closely, but the active, seemingly-coordinated censorship of this story is probably the best case for it.

That's ridiculous circular logic. The story is valid because it's not being covered? Millions of stories are not covered by the news every day. A functionally infinite number of non-stories are not covered by the news every day. The non-coverage of a story has no bearing on its validity.

Your claim is also invalid on its face—the election theft narrative is being spoken about endlessly. Trump's claims are headline news every single day. A significant fraction of the population believe it. So to claim that the story is being "censored" is simply wrong on the facts.

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Post by bJGVygG7MQVF8c »

nathias wrote: post #715
ChrisRR wrote: post #667

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As a brit, Fox news fascinates me. Because every clip of it I watch is so clearly opinion piece propaganda, they don't even pretend like they're reporting the news Even our "equivalent", the Murdoch owned Sky News channel is nowhere near as bad as Fox news

I agree, but its the same with the left media, the news are so highly politicized and opinionated that when comparing two news stories wouldn't be able to tell they are talking about the same event. One calls the other conspiracy theorists, the other is fake news, and everyone is applauding when their team is censoring the other.

The people are as naive as the Q people. They don't realize they're being just as heavily propagandized and manipulated, if not more so.

In the 90s and during the Bush years many on the "cultural left" (let's use that to refer to low-information voters who are left-sympathizing) had at least an intuition for the degree to which the security state controlled the media and how untrustworthy the media was — I thought we'd had this reckoning in the aftermath of the disastrous Iraq war but apparently mood affiliation is a helluva drug.

This historical cycle will not end will unless people start thinking a little more critically.

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Post by abnkl »

wtfiswiththis wrote: post #510
FFRefresh wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your proposal for how Fox News should be handled, given they "lie every single day"? Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet?

>Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet? Sounds like a good start. They have been involved in laundering terrorist rhetoric and incitement to mass attacks. Take the case of Fox employing Tucker Carlson. Tucker owns Daily Caller. Daily Caller published an article extolling the virtues of ISIS-style ramming attacks against protestors. Fox News republished this article. The resu…

Tucker Carlson has also interviewed Glenn Greenwald and called for the pardon of Assange.

Something you would have expected from the "liberal" media pre 2010.

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Post by MrMan »

zozbot234 wrote: post #540
volkl48 wrote: post #515

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People aren't being banned for saying the election was stolen. People are being banned for saying the election was stolen without any credible evidence to support the claim. There is a very important difference there. And if there was any evidence, it would been have presented in one of the ~60 lawsuits that universally got shot down by every single court, appeals court, and the Supreme Court. Because they had no evi…

I might wholly agree with you, but the real question is what happens next time. Perhaps the next claims of a stolen election will also be dismissed by the media and courts as "not credible", censored as "malicious lies" and dangerous "misinformation". How can y'all be so sure that you, or the public at large, will be enabled to tell the difference, when any and all debate about the claim of a stolen election will hav…

We need federally run elections or at least strong enforcement of federal election laws. Every voter that is required to present ID at the polls should be provided an ID or be provided a mail-in ballot. Every citizen should be required by federal law to vote. And some other stuff I am not qualified to post about regarding secure voting systems.

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Post by casefields »

notadev wrote: post #111
matz1 wrote: post #67

What interesting is how all these company act in the same way, why don't some company/platform took the opportunity to act the opposite to differentiate themselves ? I believe there is still large enough market for people who oppose this silencing.

Because all of their workers are coordinating these actions with one another. That also explains why most of the comments around these political issues have tons of absurd pro-censorship stances on places like HN. They're the same people.

It's also because the old guard is no longer in control influential. The early internet was very libertarian, which included you're ACLU-left wing and right wing versions. Both of which hold free speech as one of our greatest strengths.

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Post by chongli »

jacquesm wrote: post #497
TheGRS wrote: post #453

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I'm still fairly upset that the outrage wasn't louder over that, but recent events have at least pulled that event back in the spotlight.

That's the normalization of deviation in the real world at work. Less than a few weeks ago a suicide bomber blew up half a city block and it's already been forgotten because there is so much other crap happening.

That suicide bombing was really strange. It seems the person might have deliberately chosen a time when there would be no one around and made sure to warn anyone who might be in the area to get away before detonating the bomb. This would seem to indicate the person did not intend to commit mass murder, only property damage.

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Post by jamisteven »

There is an all out war right now from big-tech on conservative everything. Ushering in authoritarianism like its 1984. Parler blocked by iOS app store and google play, AWS removing their servers from its platform, youTube banning Bannon's podcast. There are plenty of people, groups, and politicians, for example the ayatollah of Iran, chinese state media etc that should pose far more of a threat to the world than some conservatives, but that doesnt support the Liberal narrative so they get to stay. Welcome to dystopia.
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