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Sorry, but no. CNN, MSNBC, etc are far from perfect, but let's not pretend that "both sides are as bad as each other". Fox (to say nothing of the absolute swamp that is OANN or Newsmax) are an order of magnitude worse than the so called "left" channels (only in the US would CNN be considered a left wing news channel). The reason that CNN, etc are "biased" against Trump is because reality is bisaed against Trump. He's…

Just consider the birther gaslighting, or everything else.

people forget the dominionist gaslighting of Sarah Palin. Pretty much every republican is seen as mini hitler these days-the shit that was said about George Bush Jr for example.

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All these people at HN applauding these kinds of actions scares me. People seem to really think it's fine to kick Trump of Twitter, ban parler but have no issues with Iran leaders, north korea youtube channel etc.

I think this is censorship. There is no viable alternative to Youtube and that is the main issue. If there was 3 services as large as youtube, I would have no issue with the exclusion from one of them but now there aren't.

Fuck big tech and their censorship.

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Young people in general have not been a reliable demographic. Also a quick google search showed that 75% of the Tea Party were 45 or older (back in 2012). My take is that there’s a desperation behind the last 20 years or so. Haven’t you wondered what would cause an entire segment of the population to take a deep dive with thinly-disguised racists and Russian trolls?

If you really think about it, then it feels like "the right" has been losing over the last 20 years. Topics such as religion, abortion, gay marriage, healthcare, marijuana legalization, and police reform have all been going in the favor of "the left". I can't really think of any big issue that "the right" has championed, that they've actually won. They've won political appointments, but not ideological positions. Eve…

It has to play a part. Imagine using all your political capital championing those non-issues and not really getting anything tangible back in return. What a waste, it makes the Republicans look similar to the college racket, they sure took the votes (the same way college sure takes the money).

The Democratic establishment is in danger of this fate in the long term as well. They are sure taking the easy money from the progressive talk, but if they don’t deliver, it’s going to backfire in 2-3 elections from within.

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What's your proposal for how Fox News should be handled, given they "lie every single day"? Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet?

Just so everyone knows, this is the type of stuff that aired of Foxnews days before the riot: https://youtu.be/oV97eEFJ4xI A rallying call like that simply doesn’t work on Democrats, but god does it work on Republicans. I just don’t see any of this dying down at all, and the Republicans are always prepared to tap into this demo around election time (in two years time at the mid terms). They live for this. Banning the…

The video's been removed by its uploader. What was it?

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I read things like this and it really makes me sad. I don’t agree with Steve Bannon or Rudy Giuliani on a lot of things. I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. I really wish we could switch what politics is about. Currently we (meaning news channels and Twitter/internet folk) want to dunk on the other tribe and show them how wrong and stupid t…

Out of curiosity what do you agree on with Bannon and Guiliqni? Can you elaborate please?

Watch speech Bannon gave at The Oxford Union Society if you want to genuinely understand the arguments he makes. I think you'd be hard pressed not to find some of the points he makes compelling.

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I think you might be catastrophizing, it's definitely positively voted now, a mere 2 hours later. In the short term, votes are a Brownian process :) Edit: this post itself has swung between 3 and -1 over just an hour!

People are downvoting against their beliefs instead of for the guidelines of discussion. It’s a hot (headed) topic.

there is very litle discussion here any more; its pretty much tribalism by people who aren't honest about being naked tribalists. The irony is that despite the leftist ideas, the actual age is incredibly conformist and conservative; there is a conservative ideology and a conservative spirit, and its possible to be leftist and yet be hidebound or reactionary in terms of free speech or tolerance.

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Also from the original article: "On November 5, 2020, Twitter permanently suspended Bannon after he called for Dr Anthony Fauci to be beheaded in an episode." It's good they finally pulled the trigger, but considering that Steven Bannon has been constantly putting oil to the fire on every single channel available, that point was very certainly much earlier.

I've seen the term "permanently suspended" several times already. Not a native speaker, could someone please explain to me the difference between that and "banned"?

I think it is for emphasis and for clarity. It is to clarify that the ban isn't temporary. A ban could be revoked or it could have a time limit. Permanent means it can't be reverted. I wonder if 'suspended' might also link to the wording within their ToS, so that's why they use ban vs suspended.

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> Do you believe Fox News should be banned/censored? In Germany, we have the section §130 StGB in our criminal code: incitement to hatred. While it would be extremely hard if not impossible to get a TV station such as Fox News to be banned here, its hosts/mouthpieces/guests could certainly be sanctioned - up to actual jail time. Also, our core media codex ("Medienstaatsvertrag") binds all broadcasting stations - radi…

I'm guessing here, but this likely doesn't remove bias. Could they simply refuse to air certain facts? Oftentimes that's all it takes. Pick the facts you report. You aren't reporting anything "false", but the truth isn't being depicted. From what I've heard Fox reports that millions believe there was fraud. Not that there was actual fraud. I haven't fact checked this, because it came from a left leaning source and I…

> I'm guessing here, but this likely doesn't remove bias. Could they simply refuse to air certain facts?

Not without risking violating the part about "journalistic integrity". Of course there was and will always be some sort of bias (e.g. the tabloid BILD is famous for being on the right wing), but it's nowhere near the scale of Fox News.

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My point is not that they were telling the truth, just that both sides tell blatant lies. And career politicians will have racked up a bewildering history of lies and mistruths. YouTube, Twitter or whatever are private property but they are increasingly being used for political discourse on both sides this would not be a probably except that the parent companies are very obviously partisan in they're application of "…

> just that both sides tell blatant lies. This is the old both sides are equal argument which is wrong. Can you please give a source where a democrat President wanted to "find the votes by putting pressure on election officials or when he told violent protestors that they are good people and the President loves them?

Didn't Biden campaign on the BLM sympathy vote and later refused to meet with their representatives once elected?

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The headline has important context: “YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel hours after Rudy Giuliani appeared on an episode and blamed the Capitol siege on Democrats” At some point the lies need to stop.

Is this the answer of more oil on the fire though?
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