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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by reddog » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 4:58 AM UTC

donatj wrote: post #160

dboreham wrote: post #132

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No, they're pissed off due to whatever in their psychology. However, they're choosing to resort to violence due to lies being spread by Fox News et al. Other people were rioting due to truth about police actions. While all rioting is to be condemned, there isn't some symmetry between a scenario driven by lies and one driven by truth.

MLK said that violence was the language of the unheard. The silenced will turn to violence. That's not surprising in the least.

It makes you wonder what will happen ofter the tech cartel completes its project of silencing half the country.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 4:59 AM UTC

S_A_P wrote: post #240

I read things like this and it really makes me sad. I don’t agree with Steve Bannon or Rudy Giuliani on a lot of things. I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. I really wish we could switch what politics is about. Currently we (meaning news channels and Twitter/internet folk) want to dunk on the other tribe and show them how wrong and stupid t…

You know, this whole not liking career politicians thing... isn't it kinda like not liking career doctors or lawyers? Why would we not want people who have spent their careers learning the ins and outs of the political landscape to represent us? Would we really rather have an amateur? How well did that work out when we elected one president?

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by sebastianconcpt » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:00 AM UTC

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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by ryandrake » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:00 AM UTC

throwawaysea wrote: post #97

dieortin wrote: post #81

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You say it like “getting caught in the moment” and assaulting the Capitol is something completely reasonable that anyone in that situation might do.

I don't think it is reasonable - I am just explaining the psychology of how people can get swept up in the fervor of crowds. I am fully in support of arresting all who participated. But my point is that it is not reasonable to conclude that Trump's speech incited people to illegally invade the capitol, commit theft/vandalism, and assault officers. His speech literally had a line saying "peacefully protest". The vast…

> I am just explaining the psychology of how people can get swept up in the fervor of crowds.

So, “Whoopsie! I accidentally entered the Capitol through that broken window and got peer pressured right into the Senate?”

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Post by clarkmoody » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:01 AM UTC

unethical_ban wrote: post #263

clarkmoody wrote: post #150

> At some point the lies need to stop. It's politics. Everything is lies.

With people like you accepting that false narrative, it's harder for government to function properly.

The politicians are 0.1% of the government. I'm sure government is getting along fine even with "people like me" out here.

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Post by amanaplanacanal » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:01 AM UTC

qwerty456127 wrote: post #258

Never heard of him (I'm from Europe and generally uninterested in politics), now I'm really curious about what did he actually say in his podcast and in fact am listening to it already. I seriously wonder how much generally pro-dem or apolitical people are going to find themselves Trump-curious or even Trump-sympathizing after all these bans and removals. I have almost no doubt there is going to be such effect, the o…

It seems unlikely that there are people in the US with any interest in politics that aren’t already well aware of who Trump, Bannon, and Guliani are.

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:01 AM UTC

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #315

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #170

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I don't think companies would save us from a fascist government; if the government falls, everything falls. So, in the meantime, trust the government more than companies (which gives you a higher stake in seeing it and Constitutional protections don't fall) by tax-funding public platforms/news delivery networks that have to abide by the First Amendment. That seems like the only way to cut this knot. Besides federated…

Can you picture Congress funding any sort of public platform that would be used for porn and spam, and extreme politics of all kinds? That seems very unlikely to ever happen.

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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by colechristensen » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:02 AM UTC

refurb wrote: post #10

tpmx wrote: post #2

I'm not even in the US, but all of this banning makes me really curious about what's being banned and why. Something that some of you may have missed: This banning thing already moved into the infrastructure/cloud services layer (AWS): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25707959

You make a really good point. It’s basically the Streisand Effect. A bunch of people who didn’t even know who Steve Bannon is are going to go and find out now.

Steve Bannon is beyond the Streisand Effect. It only works when something obscure is banned. Everyone who might be influenced by Bannon already knows about him.

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Post by viraptor » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:02 AM UTC

o-__-o wrote: post #307

viraptor wrote: post #291

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> Give me a time stamp [...] I did not see anyone armed. > One. One example is what you asked for. It's not commenting in good faith if you move goalposts like that.

What? He said he watched them storm in and instead he provides something he saw after the fact. Look, I am currently combing all of the video from the event for faces in a bid to help identify people who were in the capitol. That guy was NOT on any live stream. This the original claim of “saw it from being glued to the TVs and monitors” is a false one and I challenged op to find an example in the stream that he watch…

Not through the doors, but here's a window and a baseball bat, after breaking the window with a shield. https://youtu.be/SocnM1lHZB4?t=156

The link you posted before is a selection of the protests away from the building. I skipped through it and could not find any view of storming the building at all.

Is this what you were looking for? Or are you specifically looking for people who had their weapons in the open and visible to cameras and staff before even getting in? Because I don't think they would be that stupid.

And no, I don't believe the majority had any serious weapons with them. There is a decent number of people with padded gloves though - not something you normally take with you.

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Post by snarfy » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

S_A_P wrote: post #240

I read things like this and it really makes me sad. I don’t agree with Steve Bannon or Rudy Giuliani on a lot of things. I also don’t agree with their equivalent person on the left. In fact I am skeptical of most “career politicians”. I really wish we could switch what politics is about. Currently we (meaning news channels and Twitter/internet folk) want to dunk on the other tribe and show them how wrong and stupid t…

Steve Bannon called for the beheading of Dr Fauci. I'm not sure where you find consensus and compromise there.