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YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by SoSoRoCoCo »

brighton36 wrote: post #23
bryan0 wrote: post #13

The headline has important context: “YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel hours after Rudy Giuliani appeared on an episode and blamed the Capitol siege on Democrats” At some point the lies need to stop.

These are opinions though. It may be untrue, but you're going to find yourself with a ministry of truth. "Who decides" who gets charged with the crime. These opinions can be entertained. After all, most trump supporters are clearly enraged by democrats.

> These are opinions though

Help me out here, Hacker News. This guy thinks: "Democrats attacked the capital", is an opinion.

How do we even talk to this person?

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by laretluval »

scsilver wrote: post #26
brighton36 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are opinions though. It may be untrue, but you're going to find yourself with a ministry of truth. "Who decides" who gets charged with the crime. These opinions can be entertained. After all, most trump supporters are clearly enraged by democrats.

There is no ministry being erected, just a bunch of private parties not willing to get dragged into the mud.

No official ministry, but the private parties appear to be acting with a great deal of coordination.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by shripadk »

philosopher1234 wrote: post #20
glandium wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And GP's link, which is about Parler, is another example. I hadn't heard of Parler before it was banned.

Yes, there will be a short boost to parler and bannon, and then a long deafening silence. These bans will be effective.

It won't be. These bans and policies have been going on for a really long time. It is just hitting the US now. It has been happening in India for far too long. Big Tech monopoly has gone unchecked all this while. At least I am happy to see my fellow Indians uninstalling WhatsApp and moving to Signal. The more such alternative services the better. This stronghold of Big Tech on what internet should be has to end and it will end.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by gdulli »

DethNinja wrote: post #8
Wolfenstein98k wrote: post #4

This stuff makes me really, really suspicious. At this point, the reason for deplatforming is that someone accused a bad thing on the opposite party. It would be ludicrous to ban anyone blaming the events at the Capitol on Trump and/or Republicans, even if you earnestly believe that's unfair. There is no objective case for blaming it on anyone except the individuals doing it. Anything beyond that is subjective, and y…

Is there any proof they are not already banning left-wing hosts? I feel like at this point they are banning everyone against the status quo. Anyway I feel like this is a blessing in disguise, stuff like this can cause Tech giants to lose huge market share in the long term future. It is good that people are forming other organic communities completely separate from Google/FB/Twitter.

> I feel like at this point they are banning everyone against the status quo.

Deciding that reality is whatever you "feel like" is how we got into this mess in the first place.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by grzm »

laretluval wrote: post #32
scsilver wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no ministry being erected, just a bunch of private parties not willing to get dragged into the mud.

No official ministry, but the private parties appear to be acting with a great deal of coordination.

When a hurricane hits the coast, you'll find that a lot of people happen to board up their windows as well. A common set of pressures can provoke the same response from different people working independently. No coordination needed.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by FFRefresh »

e40 wrote: post #21

The lies are 100% of the reason the capital riot happened, so yes, they do need to stop. Fox News lies every single day. What do we expect from a population of people that only hear these lies, day in and day out? They're going to react just like they did on 1/6.

What's your proposal for how Fox News should be handled, given they "lie every single day"?

Should Fox News have their licenses removed, and be taken off the air & internet?

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by prawn »

satya71 wrote: post #15

YouTube could take its engagement algorithm down a notch, thus reducing radicalization by many orders of magnitude. Otherwise, it's just playing whack-a-mole.

They could at least shortlist quality content and make only that content eligible for algorithmic recommendations, rather than seemingly all sorts of scraps like now.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by DethNinja »

gdulli wrote: post #34
DethNinja wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any proof they are not already banning left-wing hosts? I feel like at this point they are banning everyone against the status quo. Anyway I feel like this is a blessing in disguise, stuff like this can cause Tech giants to lose huge market share in the long term future. It is good that people are forming other organic communities completely separate from Google/FB/Twitter.

> I feel like at this point they are banning everyone against the status quo. Deciding that reality is whatever you "feel like" is how we got into this mess in the first place.

Lol, how do you decide the reality then? Is this a joke?

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by newacct583 »

ars wrote: post #28
bryan0 wrote: post #13

The headline has important context: “YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel hours after Rudy Giuliani appeared on an episode and blamed the Capitol siege on Democrats” At some point the lies need to stop.

I agree lies are bad. But lying is enough to get you banned? All the discussion up to now was "there's no slippery slope, only calls for violence" will get you banned. And now it's slipped to lying will get you banned?

> I agree lies are bad. But lying is enough to get you banned?

It wasn't on Tuesday. It is now. Things are clearer.

The lies were frankly only the proximate cause. Bannon and his guests have often veered into the kind of violent rhetoric that begat Wednesday's assault on congress. Bringing Giuliani on to continue to inflame people makes it clear Bannon has no intention of stopping. So he's out.

Re: YouTube bans Steve Bannon's podcast channel

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Post by justforyou »

laretluval wrote: post #32
scsilver wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no ministry being erected, just a bunch of private parties not willing to get dragged into the mud.

No official ministry, but the private parties appear to be acting with a great deal of coordination.

Zeitgeist is not coordinated.
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