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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#362

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> If you are a developer and you don't agree with direction changes, you don't have to work on them I would tell the same to Poettering, Clasen, and co. There is really nobody who obligates them to work on their "innovations" in GNOME with religious zeal if the rest of the project showed no interest, speaking lightly. If nobody wants to work on their stuff, they can't claim "victimhood" as if that happens as a result…

I would advise holding off judgement on specific individuals unless you have worked with them closely and you have a deep understanding of why certain decisions were made. Again, if you are a developer and you disagree with someone's choices, you are free to take it in your own direction. You do not have to work on anybody else's stuff if you don't want.

> I would advise holding off judgement on specific individuals unless you have worked with them closely and you have a deep understanding of why certain decisions were made.

Is this advice meant to be applied against all people, or just other developers? I certainly wouldn't apply this standard to RIAA lawyers suing kids. I judge them to be worms even though I never worked with them. And don't even get me started on politicians, I've never worked with one but I certainly feel entitled to have harsh opinions about some of them.

If the advice is limited in scope to professional peers, then I have to disagree with it; having double standards for people like yourself isn't great advice.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would advise holding off judgement on specific individuals unless you have worked with them closely and you have a deep understanding of why certain decisions were made. Again, if you are a developer and you disagree with someone's choices, you are free to take it in your own direction. You do not have to work on anybody else's stuff if you don't want.

> if you are a developer and you disagree with someone's choices, you are free to take it in your own direction. That would be best said to persons named above. They were free to fork GNOME into their touchscreen based imaginary future, and experiment with it even more freely as a minority group, rather than trying to hijack the project, and getting stalled half-way because of popular pushback.

>trying to hijack the project, and getting stalled half-way because of popular pushback

Again, please do not spread these unfounded conspiracy theories. I can explain more what I mean by this, but it seems unlikely you are willing to hear what I have to say. I can tell you if you're trying to convince me to be hostile towards any specific developers for any specific project, I will have to decline to get involved with that. You don't have to resort to character assassination, if you have some ideas on a good technical direction for a project, just make the argument and write the code: people will listen if your arguments are sound and your code works.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#364

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Picking directories has been pretty broken forever as well. Say you start in ~/Downloads/foo and want to store the file in ~/Downloads, then navigating up will have "foo" selected, with usually no blank space to un-select (so you'd need to do ctrl+click or something to that tune); clicking "Save" (or whatever) will then descend into that directory instead of saving, so just using the mouse, or not using any shortcuts…

Wow I never thought about Ctrl+Click to deselect in that situation. I've probably wasted at least an hour of my life by giving up and re-opening the window in a different way. Thanks! (I actually asked someone more knowledgable about this once and was told that it's my fault for using the file picker incorrectly and I simply need to stop doing that.)

One thing I was happy to discover as a kid was shift + tab to go backwards with input selection (Spacebar to trigger checkboxes was nice too)

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#365

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GUIs should effectively be finite state machines and people expect them to operate that way. People understand latency and get used to it; it happened on mainframes and other terminal applications and people memorize the state machine and can tab and type through an interface at high throughput anyway. One of the most frustrating experiences is related to the OP; reflow in browsers as new elements load making it impo…

Some folks use this fact to place ads in such way that when you want to click something by the time your finger taps the screen there is an ad underneath. So annoying.

Indeed. An even more nefarious Dark Pattern [1] if the have a listener on the "mouse down" event and use it as the trigger.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#366

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Yes, and Gnome is in part responsible for a lot of "desktop" issues with linux. Distros must switch to KDE by default to help eliminate part of this stigma. KDE is so amazingly good that there is no excuse to keep using Gnome.

I find KDE to be pretty ugly. For instance, margins and paddings seem to be all over the place [1]. At least Gnome gets that part right. [1] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Notifications

If you don't like the defaults, there are thousands of 3rd party themes that are directly listed and installable from KDE's theme preference pane.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#367

Sometimes I wonder if I should just quit starting my own side projects and instead take one open-source project and just work to improve the quality. No new and shiny stuff, but boring bread and butter business. For example, I like XMPP, but many clients seem to have quality issues. So I could start writing tests for them and therefore find and fix bugs?

I have similar thoughts. I finally swapped to desktop linux last year and tried to be very mindful about all the little niggling issues I ran in to. I think the difference between an okay piece of software and a great piece of software is how cognizant the designers and developers are of these things. It's partially why I use an iphone now over android. Even if I disagree with how something is done it's usually evide…

Hello, just wanted to let you know you should probably use a different word instead of "niggling", just to be safe in case some day in the future someone may find your post and try to cast you as a racist. Or worst, it may be detected by an algorithm and your post could be demerited based on that parameter and you would not know why. While niggling is a legitimate word and has no racist origin, people may construe it as insensitive because it might trigger someone due to the similarity to a certain word. Also, actual racists sometimes use a variation of niggling to refer to black children. Sorry that it has to be this way.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#368
I’m legit worried about consumer FOSS, and especially around how work just kinda gets stuck in this limbo when an issue is over, say, 3 years old (I recently had this come up with a 12 year old FF bug as well)

I desperately want to pay, like, $100/month to get some guarantee of cleanup work on the free software I’m using (FF, GNOME, and Emacs in particular)

Lots of software projects do fundraising for lots of auxiliary stuff but I really want maintainers to be paid

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#369
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There's more serious reasons this file picker is broken. Here's a trivial to reproduce and obvious issue that's been there for several years now: 1. Open a directory that loads slowly (e.g. one with thousands of files on a smb3 mount) 2. While the list is loading, select a file (but do not open it) 3. Wait for the whole list to load Once the list finishes loading, the file on the very top of the list gets automatical…

Picking directories has been pretty broken forever as well. Say you start in ~/Downloads/foo and want to store the file in ~/Downloads, then navigating up will have "foo" selected, with usually no blank space to un-select (so you'd need to do ctrl+click or something to that tune); clicking "Save" (or whatever) will then descend into that directory instead of saving, so just using the mouse, or not using any shortcuts…

Thank you for the accurate description. and it's also broken in xfce. I personally deal with this annoying situation by ascending to the grandparent and then descending to the parent again.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

#370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GUIs should effectively be finite state machines and people expect them to operate that way. People understand latency and get used to it; it happened on mainframes and other terminal applications and people memorize the state machine and can tab and type through an interface at high throughput anyway. One of the most frustrating experiences is related to the OP; reflow in browsers as new elements load making it impo…

Some folks use this fact to place ads in such way that when you want to click something by the time your finger taps the screen there is an ad underneath. So annoying.

This is the worst, a french website Leboncoin (craigslist basically) does this, makes me want to murder the people behind it

When you click next page nothing happens long enough to make you think your click hasn't been registered, then right as you click again the page loads with ads right where the button was

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