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Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by BlueTemplar »

rewq4321 wrote: post #217
BlueTemplar wrote: post #176

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Yeah, though as we can see from experience of Gab being the biggest Mastodon instance and Mastodon not having collapsed, it's possible to have an alternative without it necessarily becoming a "witch town".

Gab left the fediverse quite a while ago now: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/ie49qp/is_gab_sti... https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/ie49qp/is_gab_sti... I don't think they ever really cared about decentralisation/federation. Seems they just wanted a nice codebase to work from.

My main point is that Mastodon survived the ordeal.

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Post by BlueTemplar »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #184
BlueTemplar wrote: post #167

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> If Mastodon/federated social networking became popular I imagine there could be "Eternal September" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September ) dynamics though. In a way that already happened. The biggest Mastodon instance is now the infamous 'alt-right' 'chan'-like community Gab. That you haven't even noticed it shows that Mastodon might be immune to "Eternal September" issues.

Afaik, Gab doesn't use Mastodon anymore. They did start as a Mastodon instance, but after being blocked from most instances and even at the software level by most Mastodon apps, they stopped using Mastodon and I believe wrote their own new backend that does not federate.

Looks like Gab has silently broken federation a few months ago :

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25715513

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by remram »

lokedhs wrote: post #120
remram wrote: post #16

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A problem here is that the default configuration automatically follow back any instance that follows it, making all their content appear on its frontpage. I think that is a pretty unsafe default.

Didn't that default change recently? I installed Peertube a couple of months ago, and I'm pretty sure that option was off by default (and I never changed it).

It might have! I installed a while ago.

I didn't find a fast way to un-follow all those automatically-followed instances though.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by mkr-hn »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #221
rewq4321 wrote: post #217

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Gab left the fediverse quite a while ago now: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/ie49qp/is_gab_sti... https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/ie49qp/is_gab_sti... I don't think they ever really cared about decentralisation/federation. Seems they just wanted a nice codebase to work from.

My main point is that Mastodon survived the ordeal.

It wasn't hard when all the big apps and most of the big instances blocked it between the announcement and launch. The instances that didn't block it mostly looked like Gab anyway.

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Post by namibj »

pjmlp wrote: post #165
riffic wrote: post #88

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You know, Linux in general is probably the best example of this. Its success doesn't need to be defined by the desktop. When people bring up desktop Linux, I always bring up that Linux impacts 100% of internet users because of its presence running web applications, and it impacts however many people who use Android or other Linux devices (embedded/IoT). Automotive is even a huge sector these days.

Depends on how one pats their back and the actual reality. Yes, Android runs on Linux, yet that is 100% meaningless for app developers targeting Android. Web developers don't care about what OS the browser is running on. Native Android developers have a Java Framework and Kotlin libraries to work with, which are completely unrelated to Linux. However they also have the NDK, one would say. Yes, indeed. So what are the…

RT_PREEMPT is very much capable of real-time applications. Outside of control loops faster than a couple kHz, it's even suitable for hard real-time applications.

But those issues aren't fixed with Linux, but rather with CPUs design for hard real-time usage.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by Imnimo »

LockAndLol wrote: post #175
Imnimo wrote: post #112

I spent like 20 minutes trying to find something I would legitimately want to watch on PeerTube and came up empty. I can't tell if it's because PeerTube just happens to have a different type of content than what I like to watch, or because I don't understand how to make the best use of the search functionality, or if the search functionality is just bad. Regardless, it's a real tough sell for me to replace YouTube wi…

Some instances have global search (search across instances) activated, but there's also a website written by the devs of peertube to do that global search https://sepiasearch.org/ You can use that to first find the videos you like and decide if you like the instances they are on. Edit: To be honest, I spend 20 minutes on youtube trying to find the stuff that I want to watch and give up often too. Their content discov…

Yeah, I tried SepiaSearch, but I couldn't find anything. As an example, I searched for "Golf". The first two videos are Twitch clips of people playing video game mini-golf and "golf bowling". Then there's a video about the Trump administration and coronavirus, and then a bunch of videos on topics that have low edit distance, like "wolf" and "gold".

Maybe that's just a bad topic and no one is uploading golf content to PeerTube.

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Post by zaroth »

M2Ys4U wrote: post #205
blisterpeanuts wrote: post #26

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> For those who support Trump, "deplatforming" is a major concern, as Trump has now lost access to essentially all of his base via social media. There are also a lot of people who are concerned about the dangerous precedent being set, regardless of whether they support this individual or not.

I think the precedent of "if you incite violence you're no longer welcome" is a perfectly fine precedent to set.

This would be great if it applied universally. Except, 2020 demonstrated very clearly it only applies to specific violent protest, not all violent protest in general.

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Post by cortesoft »

roenxi wrote: post #107
cortesoft wrote: post #76

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Sure, but no one has actually tried to kill all men. They didn't do this latest action until after people were actually killed by the violence incited.

That is giving "kill all men" a metaphorical reading. That is a fair reading, it probably isn't actually a call to violence, they just feel frustrated about something. The issue is that a fair reading is not being applied evenly. Twitter interprets "To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th" [0] as a call to violence. That isn't even close to a fair metaphorical reading,…

Right, but the violence actually happened. If we suddenly had people reading the #killallmen hashtag as literal, and start killing men, then Twitter would likely ban it. Once Trump’s tweets led to an actual terrorist attack, they banned him.

It is not a perfect system, but I think banning based on result is not an unfair system.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by cortesoft »

throwaway316943 wrote: post #177
etchalon wrote: post #145

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The post made clear that it wasn't about the tweet itself, but the broader context and how the tweet was being interpreted by communities who sought to do harm. You can argue that's not fair to Trump, and don't pretend his accounts were banned for the literal meaning of the words, when the post you linked to makes clear the thinking behind the decision.

This is the “video games cause violence argument”

That is no way comparable. This would be like if there was a video game where you killed politicians with machetes and then suddenly a bunch of politicians were killed in machete attacks.

At that point, you wouldn’t be able to say the video game was not a cause. This is not blaming Trump for abstract violence in general, but for specific violence that he called for actually happening.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by pjmlp »

namibj wrote: post #225
pjmlp wrote: post #165

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Depends on how one pats their back and the actual reality. Yes, Android runs on Linux, yet that is 100% meaningless for app developers targeting Android. Web developers don't care about what OS the browser is running on. Native Android developers have a Java Framework and Kotlin libraries to work with, which are completely unrelated to Linux. However they also have the NDK, one would say. Yes, indeed. So what are the…

RT_PREEMPT is very much capable of real-time applications. Outside of control loops faster than a couple kHz, it's even suitable for hard real-time applications. But those issues aren't fixed with Linux, but rather with CPUs design for hard real-time usage.

Industry seems to think otherwise.

That still isn't a match for something like INTEGRITY OS, vxWorks, QNX when human lives are at risk.

Or why despite using an heavily modified Linux kernel as basis for Azure Sphere, Microsoft rather advocates Azure RTOS for real time tasks.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/internet-of-things/co...

Or why the Linux Foundation, ironically pushes Zephyr for such purposes, completely unrelated to Linux source code.

https://www.zephyrproject.org/

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