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Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by Yetanfou »

rzz3 wrote: post #136
hug wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just in case this is a serious question, without editorialising, the following has happened in the past 48 hours: * Trump has been bannned from Twitter. * Trump has attempted to use the POTUS account, and had those tweets removed. * Trump has been removed from Facebook. * Trump has been banned from Twitch. * The Discord server for the_donald has been banned from Discord. * Parler has been removed from the Google Play…

If we go back to October-November, we also had a major newspaper banned from Twitter for weeks for posting a story critical of Hunter Biden with an implication that Joe Biden may have been involved in some type of corruption.

To those who voted down the parent, know that your reaction is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Pravda and Izvestia only printed "approved news", we made fun of them here in the west while in the Soviet Union is was said "there is no news in Pravda, no truth in Izvestia". I don't want to go there and will speak up against this type of censorship no matter who gets censored. Let the law be the bar which needs to be passed to be allowed to publish, not some ideological stance. If you do want to use ideology as a guideline to what gets published you a) have to be honest about it and b) don't get too claim protection as a common carrier, i.e. you will be responsible for what gets published through your channel.

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Post by mikaeluman »

Exciting stuff. Congratulations to you for this major release. We need more alternatives and the decentralized approach is certainly interesting.

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Post by Yetanfou »

ikt wrote: post #103
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are actually A LOT more too but they aren’t huge names. The left are going on a banning spree right now.

the left? these are massive multibillion dollar corporations mate.

And? Those multi-billion companies have been toeing a certain line for a long time now, partly in the hope of being left alone to gather even more money if they only did some token gestures, partly because they've taken on their own share of activists in their HR and communications divisions.

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Post by sundarurfriend »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #167
pjfin123 wrote: post #66

I made PeerTube and Mastadon accounts today out of curiosity and was generally impressed. Mastodon especially is quite usable (though obviously many fewer users than Twitter), the interface is as good as Twitter (better if you count not spamming you to login). I posted about my open source project and other random stuff and got several thought out, kind, non-spam replies with a new account. I imagine this is because…

> If Mastodon/federated social networking became popular I imagine there could be "Eternal September" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September ) dynamics though. In a way that already happened. The biggest Mastodon instance is now the infamous 'alt-right' 'chan'-like community Gab. That you haven't even noticed it shows that Mastodon might be immune to "Eternal September" issues.

Afaik, Gab doesn't use Mastodon anymore. They did start as a Mastodon instance, but after being blocked from most instances and even at the software level by most Mastodon apps, they stopped using Mastodon and I believe wrote their own new backend that does not federate.

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Post by sundarurfriend »

Imnimo wrote: post #112

I spent like 20 minutes trying to find something I would legitimately want to watch on PeerTube and came up empty. I can't tell if it's because PeerTube just happens to have a different type of content than what I like to watch, or because I don't understand how to make the best use of the search functionality, or if the search functionality is just bad. Regardless, it's a real tough sell for me to replace YouTube wi…

Your comment prompted me to dig up a Peertube instance list I'd posted elsewhere, I added it as a top level comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25712951

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Post by BlueTemplar »

RMPR wrote: post #122
jamesrcole wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. I'm in favour of it, and hope it does well. But at the same time, constant growth itself doesn't mean that much. There's a big difference between slow constant growth and explosive constant growth. Something can constantly grow yet still remain something most people have never heard of. I think Linux on the desktop is a reasonable example of this. The altern…

> there has to be some reason why people use it instead of YouTube. I had non-technical people in my family asking me Youtube alternatives because they were afraid of censorship. I think the reasons are already there[0] but there are no "peertube marketing department" taking care of conversion. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_suspensions

YouTubers have been complaining about YouTube for nearly a decade now :

http://angryjoeshow.com/ajsa/forums/topic/10325-youtube-beco...

http://angryjoeshow.com/ajsa/forums/topic/10553-youtube-copy...

https://web.archive.org/web/20200806101856/http://www.joueur... (fr)

But in 2013 there were no real alternatives. This has started to change in the recent years.

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Post by topranks »

posguy wrote: post #55
hug wrote: post #45

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CampaignMonitor, the service the Trump organisation used for its mail services, has suspended Trump's access. https://twitter.com/DaveLeeFT/status/1347724204473372672 Press releases rely on press organisations to distribute, which aren't under Trump's control, unlike his previous social media accounts, which had a reach of millions by themselves. I am not trying to impute any kind of values onto these facts. They're…

Nothing stops the Trump org from doing what InfoWarz does and sign up with Akamai and Lumen/Centurylink/Level 3 for their server hosting and CDN.

Akamai is fronting InfoWars? Didn’t know that.

EDIT: Just checked and it’s resolving to Cloudflare IPs where I’m at. Same same but different I guess.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

berkes wrote: post #150
riffic wrote: post #60

You can't put the ActivityPub ecosystem back inside its bottle. While it seems like (this is a commonly heard complaint) "no one is there", this is simply untrue. The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. in my mind there will eventually be a tipping point, but it doesn't need to happen immediately. It would be nice to see more media establish a presence there though. edit: one of my favorite PeerTube…

> The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. > > in my mind there will eventually be a tipping point, Why do so many people insist on Growth and Largest, as metrics for 'success'? My local pub is a success. They are not worlds' largest pub. My Mom and Granny don't go there. They don't have parties with millions of people crammed in the place. Etc. Why can't Linux be called 'a success', the very moment…

I used to think differently, but I am starting to agree. Part of the issues with current generation of software is that it is effectively intended for masses, who barely understand what is happening under the hood or what is possible resulting in software that looks pretty, has severely limited options and constantly calls home for 'diagnostic' purposes.

That said, commercially, it is hard to argue with adoption as a metric. Problem is, focusing on that metric results in the same bs as in the real world: consumer ( crap tier ) and business ( good tier that tends to have good options if you are willing to spend money ).

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by BlueTemplar »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #184
BlueTemplar wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If Mastodon/federated social networking became popular I imagine there could be "Eternal September" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September ) dynamics though. In a way that already happened. The biggest Mastodon instance is now the infamous 'alt-right' 'chan'-like community Gab. That you haven't even noticed it shows that Mastodon might be immune to "Eternal September" issues.

Afaik, Gab doesn't use Mastodon anymore. They did start as a Mastodon instance, but after being blocked from most instances and even at the software level by most Mastodon apps, they stopped using Mastodon and I believe wrote their own new backend that does not federate.

Source please ?

Wikipedia is not completely clear about the subject ("customized Mastodon fork") :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by pjfin123 »

jobigoud wrote: post #123
pjfin123 wrote: post #66

I made PeerTube and Mastadon accounts today out of curiosity and was generally impressed. Mastodon especially is quite usable (though obviously many fewer users than Twitter), the interface is as good as Twitter (better if you count not spamming you to login). I posted about my open source project and other random stuff and got several thought out, kind, non-spam replies with a new account. I imagine this is because…

I'm interested as well. How did you choose your PeerTube instance? What happens to the videos and followers if whoever runs peervideo.club stops what I assume is a side project of them?

This was the biggest problem with PeerTube. For Mastodon I clicked the big "join" button on the website and filtered by technology > foss and fosstodon.org was the largest option and seems to have a great community. For PeerTube trying to do the same thing I found some small technology instance with a few hundred videos. I chose peervideo.club because it's the 4th largest (so I'd be in good company if it's taken down) and seemed to be the largest English focused instance. From their about, "Peer Video Club is a chill PeerTube instance most likely just for testing. How long we plan to maintain this instance: ¯\(ツ)/¯. How we will pay for this instance: Owners's own funds". Doesn't seem like a pillar of stability.

My understanding is I could backup (no plans), and restore to another instance. To take my followers with me I would have to leave peervideo.club in a more planned way and set my account to redirect to another. No idea how long the redirect would have to stay up for most of my subscribers' instances to get the message. Even with federated you need some degree of trust that you won't be kicked off or have you instance shut down with no warning.

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