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Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by YZF »

roenxi wrote: post #85
marcinzm wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops. YouTube started moderating it's content more because advertisers asked for it. No large advertiser wants to be shown next to a neo-nazi video.

About 33% of the US actively supported Trump's bid for presidency, and accounting for turnout probably a majority didn't care if he got back in. Accounting for business owners likely leaning free-market, it seems improbable that they mean 'Trump supporters' when they say 'we don't want to advertise with neo-nazis'. They probably mean literal neo-nazi. I don't mind if literal neo-nazi are moderated off a channel. Nobo…

What's a literal neo-nazi? I guess nazis who aren't declaring their support for Hitler are not "literal" neo-nazis and are ok? I mean where you draw that line? Nobody likes them? Lots of people like them.

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Post by Imnimo »

I spent like 20 minutes trying to find something I would legitimately want to watch on PeerTube and came up empty. I can't tell if it's because PeerTube just happens to have a different type of content than what I like to watch, or because I don't understand how to make the best use of the search functionality, or if the search functionality is just bad. Regardless, it's a real tough sell for me to replace YouTube with a video service where I can't find anything I want to watch!

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by kristofferR »

grahamburger wrote: post #108
lasagnaphil wrote: post #106

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Maybe hosting isn't that hard to do it yourself, but what about SSL and DNS, or maybe even up to the ISP level? Is it feasible for a small group of people to build infrastructure to achieve total independence from deplatforming (within charity budgets)?

TOR hidden services are, I think, the only quick and easy way to do this. Pirate Bay has been reasonably successful at staying accessible in the open, but not without considerable expense as I understand.

It's frankly astonishing the TPB still has their original .org domain.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by kylebenzle »

Imnimo wrote: post #112

I spent like 20 minutes trying to find something I would legitimately want to watch on PeerTube and came up empty. I can't tell if it's because PeerTube just happens to have a different type of content than what I like to watch, or because I don't understand how to make the best use of the search functionality, or if the search functionality is just bad. Regardless, it's a real tough sell for me to replace YouTube wi…

YouTube used to be like that. I think most people don't realize that for years YouTube was only good for watching Simpsons and Family Guy episodes. Without that start it never would have taken off.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by makeworld »

pjfin123 wrote: post #66

I made PeerTube and Mastadon accounts today out of curiosity and was generally impressed. Mastodon especially is quite usable (though obviously many fewer users than Twitter), the interface is as good as Twitter (better if you count not spamming you to login). I posted about my open source project and other random stuff and got several thought out, kind, non-spam replies with a new account. I imagine this is because…

An Eternal September can easily be avoided by joining a small server with a community you like. I and others would recommend over a couple hundred but under a couple thousand.

As for improving discourse, I think you are exactly right. Unlike big tech Masto mods don't have the weight of the world on their shoulders and can moderate however. Nazi pits will still exist, but they'll be isolated.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by tastyfreeze »

jrnichols wrote: post #70
roenxi wrote: post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

> but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network If your main goal is "How can I make money?" then maybe. And that's one of the huge reasons that YouTube is the mess that it is. For the rest of us, this is not important at all. In fact, I am happy that there is no advertiser network whatsoever. if I put something on the web, I do not do it because I expect compensation. I am not alone in this s…

Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. Advertising isn't the only solution but it does allow viewers to watch without paying.

PeerTube needs content creators to get on board. Having options for monetizing content could encourage creators to use PeerTube.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by tibu »

therein wrote: post #97
marcinzm wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops. YouTube started moderating it's content more because advertisers asked for it. No large advertiser wants to be shown next to a neo-nazi video.

I think this kind of thing is over-emphasized. Most advertisers probably already understand that the person being exposed to their content for a brief moment isn't under the impression that the ad doesn't mean strong endorsement of the content by the advertiser.

This may be true but advertiser do not want to sponsor such content maybe

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by [deleted] »

kitotik wrote: post #87
jamesrcole wrote: post #84

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> The ecosystem is vibrant, healthy, and will keep growing. I'm in favour of it, and hope it does well. But at the same time, constant growth itself doesn't mean that much. There's a big difference between slow constant growth and explosive constant growth. Something can constantly grow yet still remain something most people have never heard of. I think Linux on the desktop is a reasonable example of this. The altern…

Why does it need to compete with YouTube? Is it really a zerosum situation?

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Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by daveleebbc »

nyolfen wrote: post #89
marcinzm wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops. YouTube started moderating it's content more because advertisers asked for it. No large advertiser wants to be shown next to a neo-nazi video.

you have your eyes closed if you think they're only censoring the worst kinds of content, like nazis. videos have been taken down for e.g. criticizing lockdowns. it has moved well into policing acceptable thought.

Give me an example of a video that was removed for "critcizing lockdowns" -- and I can guarantee the reason isn't the criticism, but the manner in which it is somehow "backed up" by disinformation about Covid.

Playing into this idea that somehow criticism isn't allowed is disingenuous.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by lokedhs »

remram wrote: post #16
geoah wrote: post #3

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Congrats on a major update! Peertube is something I’ve been trying again and again from time to time. My main issue is finding instances to follow that are properly moderated. A lot of the suggested instances are filled with stolen content, porn, or just very wtf videos. I’m hoping that once peertube provides ways for users to sponsor/subscribe-to creators’ peertube channels that more will either jump ship from youtu…

A problem here is that the default configuration automatically follow back any instance that follows it, making all their content appear on its frontpage. I think that is a pretty unsafe default.

Didn't that default change recently? I installed Peertube a couple of months ago, and I'm pretty sure that option was off by default (and I never changed it).
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