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Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Y'all would probably enjoy Wikipedia's discussions of English phonotactics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonotactics#English_phonotact... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_phonology#Phonotactics /ʃm/ is not a legal onset in native English. (Let alone /tʃm/, which is how I pronounce "chmod" - two syllables, /tʃə 'mɔːd/.) "Schmear" is a Yiddish loanword coming from German, where /ʃm/ is perfectly legal. So it's p…

> (I'm not sure /tʃm/ is valid in any language - words or names that start with "chm" seem to be Polish/Russian words transliterating /xm/.) Oh it sure is in Croatian (and other Slavic languages), "tʃ" is written as "č". We even have slang words like "čmr-lji-ti" [t͡ʃmrʎiti]. "r" (rolling r) can function as a vowel.

“vzkvět” is a word in Czech that is pronounced in one syllable, exactly how it's spelled, of course.

The Dutch word “striktst” is of course also pronounced exactly how it's spelled, and in one syllable.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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To me etc is pronounced "etch".

Since the /etc pronunciation was first in the list, I initially thought this might be some joke list of crazy pronunciations until I saw the rest. Do people really say "etsy" when referring to /etc?

I've never ever heard anyone say this. Usually I hear the spelled out E-T-C and occasionally "et cetera" but never "etsy"

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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I recently wondered about the best way to pronounce commands of the `[...]ctl` family, which seem to get omitted from most of these lists I come across. I personally now use "cuttle", but am curious what others say (for example, Kubernetes [1] is one notable exception, search "cube control"). [1] https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/CHANGEL...

ioctl - iOctal

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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MySQL pronunciation can be "My S Q L" or "My Sequel." I think most people in the community probably use the latter, but truthfully most of us don't really care. The "S Q L" vs. "Sequel" split has existed almost as long as SQL itself. The original name for the language was "SEQUEL." [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL#History

FWIW, much like a linguistic accent or regional dialect, using "sequel" tends to make you sound more like a Microsoft developer (definitely to people from my generation). This has been merging a bit in the last decade (mostly as the linguistic traditions of subcultures in general have been eroding from Eternal September and an entire generation passing), but it is still notable enough that people bring it up occasion…

The MS pronunciation makes sense to me. Microsoft inherited (actually bought) SQL Server from Sybase. At Sybase the pronunciation was 100% "Sequel." I worked there for 7 years and don't ever recall hearing "S Q L."

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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To me etc is pronounced "etch".

Since the /etc pronunciation was first in the list, I initially thought this might be some joke list of crazy pronunciations until I saw the rest. Do people really say "etsy" when referring to /etc? I've never ever heard anyone say this. Usually I hear the spelled out E-T-C and occasionally "et cetera" but never "etsy"

> Do people really say "etsy" when referring to /etc?

Nice to meet you. I've been saying that for 5 years now. Since etc is _et caetera_ I read it as _et c..._ hence the pronunciation.

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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This is one of those surprisingly useful and obvious things that I'm surprised not to have seen before. Knowledge of (including pronunciation) jargon is a classic gatekeeper In my experience, I'm in the minority in pronouncing sudo as soodoo, the majority seem to say pseudo. OTOH I've never heard anyone say fsck as anything other than f-suck From personal experience at Microsoft the backslash was frequently pronounce…

I know a few people who pronounce fsck with what sounds like a combination of 'suck' and the expletive, which naturally leads to phrases like "it's fsck'ing the drive."

Re: Common pronunciations of Linux directories, commands, etc. (2017)

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On a somewhat related note, I'd been internally pronouncing `reflog` in `git reflog` as REE-FLOG for the longest time. It wasn't until I finally needed to use it that REF-LOG made a lot more sense!

Reflog, for when the person hasn’t been beaten enough already.
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