PeerTube v3 • Hacker News Board

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by seebetter » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:09 AM UTC

marcinzm wrote: post #54

roenxi wrote: post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

>If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops. YouTube started moderating it's content more because advertisers asked for it. No large advertiser wants to be shown next to a neo-nazi video.

You’re referring to this?

https://www.vox.com/2018/12/13/18136253/pewdiepie-vs-tseries...

Re: PeerTube v3

#102

Post by seebetter » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:11 AM UTC

dmkolobov wrote: post #93

nyolfen wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you have your eyes closed if you think they're only censoring the worst kinds of content, like nazis. videos have been taken down for e.g. criticizing lockdowns. it has moved well into policing acceptable thought.

A large portion of this kind of content results in people irresponsibly spreading a deadly disease while hospitals are turning dying people away in some areas of the country, e.g. LA. I am happy to see content platforms policing thought in this manner!

I’m not denying the numbers but I was at Century City mall today. Lot of people relatively, lot of fun. Made 3 new friends today and went on a date.

Yes roughly 2-3x the people are dying everyday vs 5 months ago. That’s horrible obviously but I barely see anyone in a close setting.

But people are living despite it. My friend is dating 3 to 7 girls at once and they all know each other (and all hang out together).

Not saying that’s ideal but the pandemic isn’t affecting people like cable news suggest. Barely anyone talks about it but we all try to be careful.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by ikt » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:12 AM UTC

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #36

hug wrote: post #19

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Just in case this is a serious question, without editorialising, the following has happened in the past 48 hours: * Trump has been bannned from Twitter. * Trump has attempted to use the POTUS account, and had those tweets removed. * Trump has been removed from Facebook. * Trump has been banned from Twitch. * The Discord server for the_donald has been banned from Discord. * Parler has been removed from the Google Play…

There are actually A LOT more too but they aren’t huge names. The left are going on a banning spree right now.

the left? these are massive multibillion dollar corporations mate.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:13 AM UTC

dmkolobov wrote: post #93

nyolfen wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you have your eyes closed if you think they're only censoring the worst kinds of content, like nazis. videos have been taken down for e.g. criticizing lockdowns. it has moved well into policing acceptable thought.

A large portion of this kind of content results in people irresponsibly spreading a deadly disease while hospitals are turning dying people away in some areas of the country, e.g. LA. I am happy to see content platforms policing thought in this manner!

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Re: PeerTube v3

#105

Post by reddog » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:15 AM UTC

SubiculumCode wrote: post #8

Vaslo wrote: post #4

This seems extremely relevant given everything going on. Do we have to worry about the same deplatforming and data tracking as we see on other media sites? Asking because I just don’t know - I don’t want to hop over just to have the same problems.

So will PeerTube just become a tool for extremism? Or is that a feature? Are humans actually ready for the internet? I am not so sure. Just visited parler, and imagine a whole world filled with bat shit. Crazy, right?

Your local community library is also full of extremism. You will find copies of The Communist Manifesto, Mein Kamph, The Turner Diaries, The Anarchist Cookbook, Platos Republic, In Defense of Selfishness and The Koran.

It has “problematic” works like Huckleberry Finn, Satanic Diaries and To Kill a Mockingbird.

It has works written by known racists such as HP Lovecraft, TS Elliot, Roald Dahl, Dr Seuss and Kingsley Amis.

It has hard copies of dangerous films that have been memoyholed by Prime and Netflix like Gone With The Wind and The Jazz Singer. It may also have DVDs that have been produced, directed and acted in by vile, cancelled individuals like Kevin Spacey, Louise CK, Harvey Weinstein, or Mel Gibson.

Good God, it might even have a copy of the Jenna in blackface episode from the third season of 30 Rock. I am clutching my pearls and getting the vapors just thinking about it.

Re: PeerTube v3

#106

Post by lasagnaphil » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:17 AM UTC

grahamburger wrote: post #7

Vaslo wrote: post #4

This seems extremely relevant given everything going on. Do we have to worry about the same deplatforming and data tracking as we see on other media sites? Asking because I just don’t know - I don’t want to hop over just to have the same problems.

It's decentralized. You can run your own server and post your stuff on it. That doesn't guarantee you a platform in the first place, but PeerTube itself can't really deplatform you. You could be deplatformed further up the stack, though, by your hosting provider, ssl provider, DNS registrar, etc.

Maybe hosting isn't that hard to do it yourself, but what about SSL and DNS, or maybe even up to the ISP level? Is it feasible for a small group of people to build infrastructure to achieve total independence from deplatforming (within charity budgets)?

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by roenxi » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:18 AM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #76

toolz wrote: post #62

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To directly answer your question, I would say no - however it is ideological activism to only enforce those ToS for specific services. The #killallmen hashtag has trended more than once on twitter, for example.

Sure, but no one has actually tried to kill all men. They didn't do this latest action until after people were actually killed by the violence incited.

That is giving "kill all men" a metaphorical reading. That is a fair reading, it probably isn't actually a call to violence, they just feel frustrated about something.

The issue is that a fair reading is not being applied evenly. Twitter interprets "To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th" [0] as a call to violence. That isn't even close to a fair metaphorical reading, and it was probably meant literally.

[0] https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspensio...

Re: PeerTube v3

#108

Post by grahamburger » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:25 AM UTC

lasagnaphil wrote: post #106

grahamburger wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's decentralized. You can run your own server and post your stuff on it. That doesn't guarantee you a platform in the first place, but PeerTube itself can't really deplatform you. You could be deplatformed further up the stack, though, by your hosting provider, ssl provider, DNS registrar, etc.

Maybe hosting isn't that hard to do it yourself, but what about SSL and DNS, or maybe even up to the ISP level? Is it feasible for a small group of people to build infrastructure to achieve total independence from deplatforming (within charity budgets)?

TOR hidden services are, I think, the only quick and easy way to do this. Pirate Bay has been reasonably successful at staying accessible in the open, but not without considerable expense as I understand.

Re: PeerTube v3

#109

Post by Aunche » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:28 AM UTC

seebetter wrote: post #102

dmkolobov wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A large portion of this kind of content results in people irresponsibly spreading a deadly disease while hospitals are turning dying people away in some areas of the country, e.g. LA. I am happy to see content platforms policing thought in this manner!

I’m not denying the numbers but I was at Century City mall today. Lot of people relatively, lot of fun. Made 3 new friends today and went on a date. Yes roughly 2-3x the people are dying everyday vs 5 months ago. That’s horrible obviously but I barely see anyone in a close setting. But people are living despite it. My friend is dating 3 to 7 girls at once and they all know each other (and all hang out together). Not…

The residents of Singapore, Taiwan, and New Zealand are also having fun right now, without the 2x-3x people dying. The difference is that they stay at home when the experts tell them to stay at home.

Re: PeerTube v3

#110

Post by cinquemb » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:35 AM UTC

wGeF7H8Z59y985y wrote: post #82

dang wrote: post #75

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Please don't post political or religious flamebait to HN. This comment is seriously not cool—it's basically starting yet another fire where there wasn't one already burning. HN is burning in 17 different places right now and we need users like you to refrain from arson and/or criminal negligence. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use the site as intended. We detached this subthread fr…

You can’t have your cake and eat it too, dang. You’re asking us to refrain from politics in the same breath in which you’re sweeping any sign of dissent under the rug. No wonder your house is on fire! This whole damn country is on fire, and you don’t fight fires with more gasoline.

Moral hazards coming due… nothing to see here… lol