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Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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> while censoring the 50% rest of the political spectrum Let's be clear: moderating/banning the accounts of a man and his supporters who invited tens of thousands of people to the United States Capitol, spent hours lying to them about the results of the election, and then weaponized them in an attempt to overthrow the US government is not a case of Twitter crossing some sort of threshold into tyranny. A grave crime w…

Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…

If it fails it was just a joke, but if it succeeds it was serious...

We were a few fuckups away from a pile of dead congressional representatives. Don't kid yourself.

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I don't recall the time when armed insurrectionists with guns, bombs, and zip ties attempted to execute the Vice President when the left did it, can you share some links?

You're narrowing the criteria to match this specific event and asking for an exact replica the left, of which there are none. We see through your rhetoric. Last summer was replete with examples of violence from the left. Far more deadly and destructive than seen at the capitol building riot.

Overwhelmingly peaceful, massive, justified protests with scattered violence, versus highly targeted political violence instigated by the highest-ranking public official and based on an unvarnished lie. These things are the same to you?

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It's okay when the left does it but it's a national crisis when the right does it. Pointing out the hypocrisy.

I don't recall the time when armed insurrectionists with guns, bombs, and zip ties attempted to execute the Vice President when the left did it, can you share some links?

They weren't armed, they had to pass the secret service checks to get to the Trump rally area. Then marched straight from there to the capitol. Maybe there were some guns from others that didn't come from the rally, I don't know. I only know the only one that used a gun was the capitol police on an unarmed protestor. She was shot without warning while trying to climb through a door window.

We don't know if the bombs were planted by Trump supporters or Antifa.

This wasn't an assassination attempt but a rally that got out of hand. I watched the livestream. Did you know what most of them did when they were inside? They were in awe of the building and started taking selfies. Then most of them just stood there, unsure what to do. They even stayed inside the velvet ropes in Statuary Hall, like a bunch of tourists. Does that sounds like an armed insurrection?

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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That's being overly reductive; akin to stating that Christian Mingle censors Atheist or Muslim views because they focus on a Christian market. Or that Steam censors by not approving all content. At that point "censorship" is diluted to have no meaniong beyond curation. The company is choosing to narrow its market focus; it tried to facilitate person's B and C, but C is forcing them to choose. That's curation, not cen…

> That's being overly reductive No it isn't. It is literally the definition that is on wikipedia. That is a very good authority on definitions for things. > At that point "censorship" is diluted to have no meaning beyond curation. Sure it does. The meaning is quite clear in the article, which is a relevant authority on the issue. Private companies can censor people. That is the definition, and the relevant authoritie…

Private companies engage in censorship only when they have a controlling interest on a form of communication, and that is the sole purview of monopolies.

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> So what we have now is a huge fraction of the population that feel the election has been stolen Ask yourself, who led these people to believe this.

I've been listening to both sides and I dont even think people understand where this stems from and why some people want answers. Phil Waldron's testimony is one of them https://youtu.be/rri6flxaXww?t=4924

I'm not watching any more debunked conspiracy theories, thanks. They've had their numerous days in court.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…

A few of my favorite things that were brought to the capital. Zip ties, several guns, 11 molotov cocktails, 2 pipe bombs. Guliani also asked Tuberville to object to every state which if acted on would have required at least 11 days of 12 hour sessions with an armed angry mob outside. When they finally attacked it took hours to authorize the national guard to defend the capital giving the mob maximum time to terrorize…

All of that fantastical story could have happened and still would not have had a diff government. You need consent from a number of powerful stakeholders including the armed forces Supreme Court and all kinds of ancillary players [banks, heavy industry, etc.]

Forcing people under duress doesn’t hold. If you walk up to a bank teller and force them to transfer a million dollars to your account while you brandish a gun, will not be a legitimate transfer and will be reversed when order is restored.

Real life is not like playing cops and robbers. It’s slightly more sophisticated than that but the media is frothing at the mouth with wild exaggeration when it fits their narrative. The CHAZ was hip and cool for all I know.

I cannot fathom how people would think a rag tag coup is realistic in any way. It does not happen that way. Successful coups have powerful interests in the background willing to bite it if it comes to that.

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They are obviously pointing out the hypocrisy and bias with which the left spins narratives. Here's a pointed question for you: Which was worse and by what measure, the BLM/Antifa riots of last year or the capitol building riot?

> Here's a pointed question for you: Which was worse and by what measure, the BLM/Antifa riots of last year or the capitol building riot? I'm gonna say that the mob attack on the United States' entire line of succession over false claims of fraud is worse than overwhelmingly peaceful protests over the murder of an unarmed, compliant man in police custody.

I see it's graduated from "mostly peaceful" to "overwhelmingly peaceful". The craziest part of your spin is that by applying it, you're greatly increasing the odds of actually getting it.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Let's not split hairs. When: You have the world's largest megaphone. You bring tens of thousands of hardline supporters to the Capitol on the day that officially seals the transfer of power. You and your henchmen spend hours forcefully lying and claiming that the entirety of the national election apparatus is in a conspiracy to steal the election. You tell them to march on the capitol to 'fight.' You are inciting a r…

” When, as the capitol is being ransacked, you double down on the lie and continue to say the election was stolen, and to say you love them, you are continuing the riot and you are trying incite nationwide unrest.” You conveniently leave out the fact that he explicitly and clearly told them to stop doing it ”go home”. Yet this was again censored by the big tech. I don’t like Trump either, but let’s stop lying about ”…

If Trump said one sentence that "be peaceful go home" but wrapped it in two sentences "the election was stolen" why shouldn't we assume he means the thing he says more often and ignore stuff he says less often? And he repeated "it was stolen" many times before, too. To point that out is not a censorship.
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