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Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Occupying a government building for a few hours to disrupt a ceremonial activity isn't an attempt to "overthrow the US government". The capitol isn't a game of Capture the Flag - you don't get power just by standing there. At most, the occupational of the capitol was equivalent to a sort of political panty raid. Silly, yes. Meaningful, no. You have bought into a hysterical narrative, at least as fantastic as whatever…

> You have bought into a hysterical narrative, at least as fantastic as whatever insane narrative the QAnon people have bought into. I'm just stating facts. The claims Trump has made about election fraud, hundreds of times over the course of two months, are lies. He used the people who believed those lies to attack the Capitol as they deliberated on the transfer of power. Please elaborate on what's hysterical about m…

You literally responded to zero words in the parent's comment.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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> foreign values Not even foreign values. Only subset of foreign values which are only shared by the Silicon Valley. Beyond that, half the US people disagree with Google/Apple/Twitter/Facebook’s non-neutral stance on politics, who weighed their full weight in censoring 50% of the political spectrum. I will not call it the pied piper because Uganda weighs nothing, but the GAFA’s politics are now visible as directly ha…

Maybe Uganda (and other countries) will start thinking about replaceing US-run social media with home grown solutions. Given that open source and federated replacements for Twitter[1], Instagram[2], Reddit[3], YouTube[4] etc exist, this would not be a massive undertaking. 1: Mastodon, https://mastodon.social/about 2: PixelFed, https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed 3: Lemmy, https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy 4: PeerTub…

It's probably a good idea, but how will they implement censorship?

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Let's not split hairs. When: You have the world's largest megaphone. You bring tens of thousands of hardline supporters to the Capitol on the day that officially seals the transfer of power. You and your henchmen spend hours forcefully lying and claiming that the entirety of the national election apparatus is in a conspiracy to steal the election. You tell them to march on the capitol to 'fight.' You are inciting a r…

>You have the world's largest megaphone. You bring tens of thousands of hardline supporters to the Capitol on the day that officially seals the transfer of power. You and your henchmen spend hours forcefully lying and claiming that the entirety of the national election apparatus is in a conspiracy to steal the election. You tell them to march on the capitol to 'fight.' Here is where opinion differ. You may consider t…

I agree that events are subject to interpretation, and I hope we can agree that he deserves a fair trial, has chance to testify at his trial and confront his accusers, and has competent legal representation.

I hope we can also agree that Twitter doesn't need to dispense with a trial and can use their own judgment, since they are not part of the US government.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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> A grave crime was committed this week Like in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_protests And 2018. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/protests-buil...

Just trying to be clear, are you saying these events were justified, or that the attack on the US Capitol was justified?

They are obviously pointing out the hypocrisy and bias with which the left spins narratives.

Here's a pointed question for you: Which was worse and by what measure, the BLM/Antifa riots of last year or the capitol building riot?

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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> while censoring the 50% rest of the political spectrum Let's be clear: moderating/banning the accounts of a man and his supporters who invited tens of thousands of people to the United States Capitol, spent hours lying to them about the results of the election, and then weaponized them in an attempt to overthrow the US government is not a case of Twitter crossing some sort of threshold into tyranny. A grave crime w…

Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…

Ultimately the capital police were distracted by multiple pipe bombs at the RNC/DNC headquarters, The FBI seized a van full of guns. The woman who was shot served 6 years in the DC air national guard, and directly trained on riot control in the DC metro area.

This was an organized attempt to assault a joint-session of the newly elected congress discharging their duty to certify the election results for the Executive branch of government.

Had the rioters reached the house or senate floor the US could have found itself without a legislative branch to legitimize the next president.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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post #108

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> A grave crime was committed this week Like in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_protests And 2018. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/protests-buil...

Just trying to be clear, are you saying these events were justified, or that the attack on the US Capitol was justified?

It's okay when the left does it but it's a national crisis when the right does it. Pointing out the hypocrisy.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Did you even read the article? The reason the Ugandan government is blocking these apps is with the intent, as the article suggests, of stopping misinformation through "citizen journalism", not because the nation of Uganda suddenly had fears of Google or Apple moderating their nation's discourse. Furthermore, the article goes on to say that this kind of block has occurred before in 2016.

I am talking in a more general term. And also they do want ability impose sovereignty upon the narrative. That include the ability to prevent Silicon Valley companies propagate narrative that is not compatible with the sovereign.

No one is forcing you to use "Silicon Valley" products. There's already a precedent set in the courts when a bakery refused to offer service to a gay couple because of personal beliefs.

Likewise, Twitter et. al. are simply following the same precedent set to enforce their values in the products they offer. The social media app is not public square and no one is certainly entitled to use it.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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post #75

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Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…

Ultimately the capital police were distracted by multiple pipe bombs at the RNC/DNC headquarters, The FBI seized a van full of guns. The woman who was shot served 6 years in the DC air national guard, and directly trained on riot control in the DC metro area. This was an organized attempt to assault a joint-session of the newly elected congress discharging their duty to certify the election results for the Executive…

They did reach the floor. Some topless dude with horns and a fur cape pranced about the dais.

And guess what? We're fine.

You're pulling together a handful of facts from a massive event composed of trillions of facts and weaving them into a conspiracy. It was what it appeared to be. A rally that got out of hand.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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> while censoring the 50% rest of the political spectrum Let's be clear: moderating/banning the accounts of a man and his supporters who invited tens of thousands of people to the United States Capitol, spent hours lying to them about the results of the election, and then weaponized them in an attempt to overthrow the US government is not a case of Twitter crossing some sort of threshold into tyranny. A grave crime w…

Occupying a government building for a few hours to disrupt a ceremonial activity isn't an attempt to "overthrow the US government". The capitol isn't a game of Capture the Flag - you don't get power just by standing there. At most, the occupational of the capitol was equivalent to a sort of political panty raid. Silly, yes. Meaningful, no. You have bought into a hysterical narrative, at least as fantastic as whatever…

"The capitol isn't a game of Capture the Flag - you don't get power just by standing there. At most, the occupational of the capitol was equivalent to a sort of political panty raid. Silly, yes. Meaningful, no."

Shushh dude ( •_•)>⌐■-■ 101 we are not encouraging them to think better

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Banning (or, more precisely, disturbing operation of) a decentralized service is much easier than a big, important centralized one. You just need to obtain the DNS names or IP addresses of the nodes the same way everyone else does — by participating in the network. This way you can even selectively ban the "bad" nodes. Banning a centralized service like gmail is easier, but then you lose in productivity as 90% of you…

Your argument seems to depend on the idea that centralized services are inherently more popular than decentralized services, which isn’t necessarily true. To say that it’s “much easier” to ban hundreds of IP addresses instead of a dozen IP addresses is ridiculous. It’s no easier to get IP addresses in a distributed system than it is to get them in a centralized system. GMail is a funny example to point to, because em…

> Where are you going to find a list of all ip addresses hosting SMTP and IMAP servers?

Shodan is a readily available database of such data. Just search for all hosts with IMAP, SMTP and POP3 ports exposed and then block those. Alternatively, a DIY scan of the whole IPv4 address range can be accomplished within hours or days.

IPv6 address space is harder to scan, but it's arguably safe to ban all such traffic since nearly nothing critical uses IPv6.

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