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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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> The type of person that stormed the capitol will perceive this as an escalation. Who cares? The type of person that stormed the Capitol has shown they are impervious to reality. Time to stop the appeasement.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25692753.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

I think the logic isn't that hard. Person says bad things to whip up a mob - Twitter unsure to take him seriously or literally. Mob actually materializes and several people die - Twitter sure they now have to take him literally

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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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I still use RSS. It doesn't matter how much effort twitter makes. The simple reality is that you cant have a middle man in one-to-many communication. Its just not possible for their agenda to align perfectly with yours - or anyones. You can use twitter if you can make your agenda fit theirs (which is a moving target) and twitter can have plenty of users by adapting their agenda to its users (which are a bazillion moving targets) - good luck with that! One would have to be rather ignorant, a person docile enough to realistically anticipate any and all future contexts doesn't exist. Twitter is trying really hard to make it work - but it cant! I remember people who build their organization on google wave, on google knol and on yahoo groups. I build a reasonably large community on yahoo 360 and we tried to move to WordPress. (you can laugh, it's okay) I've used up all of my ignorance. I like RSS the way I like email and bittorrent. You can down vote me but to shut me up would require a good few days in court. We could just do discussion in stead and I might learn something.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.

Snowflakes gonna flake.

Would you please stop posting flamewar and political battle comments to HN? You've been doing it a lot and we ban that sort of account. The idea of this site is curious, thoughtful conversation. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting.

I realize lots of other people are breaking them also, but that's not an excuse to do it yourself.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Welcome to the Soviet Union of America, where the Left can unperson even the sitting president of the country with full impunity.

Please stop using HN for ideological battle. You've been doing it a lot and we ban accounts that do that, regardless of the ideology they're battling for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the intended spirit (and the rules) when posting here, we'd be grateful. The rules don't depend on how wrong other people are or how badly they behave. Everyone needs to…

I think it's a pretty accurate description of what we're seeing now. Leftist government seizes power and enacts a mass purge of dissidents, including the sitting president. This is nothing new in history and I'm simply pointing it out.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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I think the logic isn't that hard. Person says bad things to whip up a mob - Twitter unsure to take him seriously or literally. Mob actually materializes and several people die - Twitter sure they now have to take him literally

It's really important realize this distinction. Imagine a newspaper printing a letter to the editor from a person whose words have previously incited a riot. I find it surprising that they enabled the account again at all after the 6th.

In the terrorism of the 60s through to the 90s a common demand in hostage situations was to have a letter read out in the media. The PFLP would do it, the Red Army Brigades, even the Unabomber demanded his manifesto be printed

They needed to take hostages to get published because most media wouldn't air their messaging because of their support of violence

In the modern age they'd all have free platforms and likely amplification.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#849

Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.

The actual reason is Jan 20th is pretty close now.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#850

Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…

> Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms?

the still sitting president of the USA could open a channel in telegramm (no censorship at all right now), or he could use a russian service like livejournal or vkontakte (they wouldn't have a case to ban him), but I guess that's all he could do right now.

Update: he can no longer use parler, that has been removed from both app store and google play. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/parler-removed-fro...

it seems like banning platforms wholesale is the logical next step; so usage of alternative platforms might not be a solution.

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