Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.
The set of topics that gets you de-platformed (or financially de-platformed) is increasing.
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You are correct; a police officer was reportedly struck over the head with a fire extinguisher, and he later died of the injury. I really, really want them to find who did that. I also think the guy who shot that unarmed woman has no business wearing a uniform and carrying a weapon. And if it wasn't 100 people spilling over a barrier (actually, the police pulled the barriers away and literally waved them in - explain…
>I also think the guy who shot that unarmed woman has no business wearing a uniform and carrying a weapon. I don't know what you are basing this on. He was apparently the last line of defense between the mob and some of the politicians the mob was trying to attack. Who knows what would have happened if they got through that door and he didn't act. There could have easily been a serious hostage situation. >And if it w…
So, totally different from people in Portland barricading a Federal building, then trying to set it ablaze with people inside?
Did this crowd of "insurrectionists" actually threaten anyone? There are reports someone set a couple of pipe bombs, but not in the building, and the FBI is investigating it and has offered a $50K reward, but inside the building, it was kooks and protesters who were pretty quickly rounded up and arrested. I don't condone what they did at all, but comparing it to burning down buildings like in Portland and Atlanta... the mind boggles at this moral equivalency. True mob violence did not occur on January 6, and thank God for that.
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Wherein 100 people spilling over a barrier into a government building (and one of them getting shot to death) is somehow worse than the aforementioned billions in property damage and assaults on cops, smashed police cars, passersby attacked, stores looted, fires set... in 12 different cities around the nation?
You know that five people died, right? Bombs were planted, property was stolen. All this to protest a legitimate election.
To protest a stolen election.
You can spin it your way, and I'll spin it my way. You won't persuade me or 75m other people by just asserting that you're right and we're wrong. It doesn't work that way.
Well, I take that back. It did work that way for 75 years in a place we used to call the USSR.
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The Occupy movement was targeted and that was barely a decade ago.
African-American civil rights activists have been targeted pretty consistently for...well, most of American history, really.
Yep, Fred Hampton and MLK, Jr. being the most well-known, at least to myself.
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The purge has been happening for years. I hate how people on HN is praising this. There are literally few alternatives for the average person apart from Google and eyeProducts. I have a PinePhone, but what percentage of America can truly put in the effort to use one? If you cannot install an run your own software on a device, you do not own the device. You cannot praise the removal of Gab or Parlor now and complain l…
> I hate how people on HN is praising this. In most countries in the world, you can go to jail for saying the wrong thing. This includes countries which are, for all practical purposes, freer than the USA -- like Germany, which hasn't renazified since WWII in part because of its hate speech laws. So no, not everybody recognizes that unfettered expression is a universal good. There are places which have already experi…
> Germany, which hasn't renazified since WWII in part because of its hate speech laws.
The US has a number of troops stationed in Germany comparable to the German army. The ideology of Germany has not been left to chance at any point after WWII.
That probably isn't the model that most people look for in their own country's governance.
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Why did they do it? There's video footage showing cops literally pulling back the barricades and waving people in. I don't understand why they did that, and surely their not doing that would have prevented the subsequent violence?
I wish this incorrect notion would die, The cops didn't just let them in. The protesters pushed past the main barricades. After the cordon had been broken, the police retreated back towards the Capitol building. The police repeatedly did this until they were completely overwhelmed by the protesters. One police officer died in the melee and several others sustained injuries. The failure on the day was one of leadershi…
There's video footage of the cops literally pulling back the barricades. See Millie Weaver on YT for example, and dozens of others.
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I don’t know if you realize you’re making exactly my point. This “fact check” is the kind of laughable gaslighting that got us here. The YouTube videos speak for themselves. The death toll speaks for itself. > Colbert: ”I know there are protests still happening in major cities across the United States, I'm just not seeing the reporting on it that I had for the first few weeks," The “protests” were violet mobs which d…
Harris was warning that those terrible riots would continue, not encouraging them. The meaning is quite clear, but I don't think I can convince you of that. Quote from Harris: “It’s no wonder people are taking to the streets and I support them. We must always defend peaceful protest and peaceful protestors. We should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence, including the shooter who was ar…
I know that’s what you see. You see that because you believe that and spoken language is ambiguous.
Trump followed up with an almost identical statement. You understand what he said differently because you believe different things about Trump.
It’s OK. It’s politics.
In the end all I want is people to be consistent in how they describe violent mobs.
Personally I don’t think these violent mobs in the summer or yesterday are terrorists. I think they are simply violent mobs that were allowed to get out of control through lack of policing and bad politics. I blame both sides.
The meta problem I have is the rapid political capitalization by Democrats (including Harris) and the media following one violent mob after granting persistent cover and gaslighting readers for months over the significantly worse BLM/antifa mobs going off all summer.
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If you run a social network and can’t keep up with moderation for calls for violence you shouldn’t be allowed to be in business. This goes for the big tech companies as well. “It’s hard” is not an excuse.
Exactly. it’s hard for McDonald’s to manage food safety with thousands of locations, but they don’t just go “oh well I can’t be watching everything”. They spend the money making sure everything is fine.
False equivalency. McDonald's can and does manage food safety over a vast area, because they've got it down to a fine art after 60 years.
A brand new startup from last year can hardly be held to the same standard.
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#700Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.
This decision, in and of itself, doesn't seem particularly unprecedented or untoward to me. Every store, including the Google Play Store, has a right to choose what products it wants to carry, for pretty much any reason whatsoever, including for political reasons. It's probably pretty difficult to find copies of The Turner Diaries in your local Barnes and Noble, and I'd be even more surprised to find a copy of The Va…
I own a kindle fire tablet. I wanted to use an app from a competing service, but alas it wasn’t in the Amazon App Store. No problem though, I installed the google store on my tablet, and downloaded it. Side loading would have also worked.
Isn’t this what android users have boasted of for so long to apple fans? There isn’t only one store. In the case of Parlor, you can probably just use a browser even.