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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by Ancapistani »

SoSoRoCoCo wrote: post #291
jennyyang wrote: post #125

Yes, I think this is actually it. After he basically commanded them to "Stop the Steal", I said that Facebook and Twitter would ban him. I also said that nuclear war was also on the table. If he is so unAmerican that he would actually tell his mob to attack the Capitol buildings, he really doesn't care about America at all. Being as petulant as he is, nuclear war is very much on the table. That's how crazy this situa…

> I also said that nuclear war was also on the table. I think since he cowered so hard during his concession, he's done playing tough guy. He'll hand out medals and pardons and then run away. I can't believe how much like "Animal Farm" this whole thing played out. Almost verbatim with the constant attempts to scapegoat Snowball/Antifa. Although given that 80% of republicans think the election was stolen (and 40% of t…

> I don't think Civil War is an exaggeration any longer, unless the Biden admin clamps down on the armed insurrection boiling over in the reddest parts of the country.

I don’t know the path forward to ensure peaceful governance, but I’m 100% confident that this is not it. All that this will accomplish is to polarize those currently sitting on the sidelines to choose and commit to a side.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by TT3351 »

rmk wrote: post #472
shiado wrote: post #115

74 million voters. This is not going to play out well. There's really no coming back from this moment, the technocratic elite have changed American democracy forever. Edit: I mean this in the way Snowden tweeted yesterday, it will be interesting how this plays out for better or worse, but it is a monumental policy shift that will be a date marked in history books.

It appears to me that there is a huge electorate that is disgruntled and has felt that the people in power have ignored it for too long. If such a large number of people have actually vandalized Congress (didn't they do something like this to the Michigan Statehouse) to make their displeasure known, then they must genuinely feel that the normal method of registering protest, i.e., voting, has ceased to function for t…

How do you suggest we do that without disrespecting the far greater number of Americans who voted in good faith in a free and fair election for Joe Biden? Democracy makes losers of us all once in a while, we need to learn to live with it.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by dionian »

fotta wrote: post #91
Rebelgecko wrote: post #54

Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.

Agreed. I don't disagree with the ban, but their justification is weak.

If you're saying they don't have a good reason, but you dont like the guy so you're glad it happened to him... don't you see how this is a problematic precedent? If trump supporters were in the majority would it be ok for them to censor democrats?

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by dang »

jennyyang wrote: post #125

Yes, I think this is actually it. After he basically commanded them to "Stop the Steal", I said that Facebook and Twitter would ban him. I also said that nuclear war was also on the table. If he is so unAmerican that he would actually tell his mob to attack the Capitol buildings, he really doesn't care about America at all. Being as petulant as he is, nuclear war is very much on the table. That's how crazy this situa…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25692148.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by NicoJuicy »

llcoolv wrote: post #435
ve55 wrote: post #44

This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

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"it's confirmed that it's antifa" is one of the most delusional things I've seen.

All the ones identified and arrested are obvious Trump and qAnon supporters.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by matz1 »

busymom0 wrote: post #471

Don't like it? Build your own Twitter. Don't like it? Build your own Payment Processor. Don't like it? Build your own Aeroplane. Don't like it? Build your own uh.........government?

This is how it works since forever, either build your own or take over control to force it to change.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by AgentME »

redisman wrote: post #175
tempsy wrote: post #28

Me thinks this will have huge implications for big tech. A Pandora’s box was just opened.

People are banned all the time for all kinds of reasons. Only when it’s” conservatives “ does the outrage machine spin up. The only reason he made it this far is because he got special treatment for YEARS

This has been my experience. I used to help moderate a forum, and never had any issue at all banning people for posting racist stuff up until 2016. Then people started calling that "political" and insisted I was biased against conservatives after I banned someone (who happened to be of a certain political affiliation) for making a thread full of just "fuck muslims". It caused drama and I left. People are overly primed for the narrative that conservatives are irrationally oppressed online and they ignore details to make it fit.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by kzrdude »

dredmorbius wrote: post #386
ve55 wrote: post #44

This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

The environment has changed. Previously theoretic risks are now manifest, demonstrated, and cognizable. Actual riots, insurrection, disruption of government, assaults on law enforcement, damage to government buildings, theft of government property, violence, and deaths, have occurred. The instigator is unrepentent and non-credible in what are at best tepid disavowals. The totality of context has changed. If "he has t…

Don't you think that one of the most important changes in recent weeks is that he's now a lame duck, he doesn't really have power anymore. This is why he's been losing more an more allies since election day. Powerful figures and institutions can change their stance now and this is a preemption of his exit when the next president takes over.

I'm basically saying, it's a whole lot easier to be "brave" and deal a blow to a lame duck than a live tiger.

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