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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by TT3351 »

paganel wrote: post #224

It's a purge, had just read 5 minutes ago that they had suspended Michael Flynn's account, now I'm seeing that FB has decided to ban a community of over half a million people [1] supposedly because their political opinions are not in the best interest of FB the company right at this moment. Of course, I had to get all that info from thedonald.win because almost no-one else is talking about this. Coincidentally, I als…

As an American, I will tell you the tweet author you quote is not a reliable narrator.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by scarmig »

ficklepickle wrote: post #304
jennyyang wrote: post #125

Yes, I think this is actually it. After he basically commanded them to "Stop the Steal", I said that Facebook and Twitter would ban him. I also said that nuclear war was also on the table. If he is so unAmerican that he would actually tell his mob to attack the Capitol buildings, he really doesn't care about America at all. Being as petulant as he is, nuclear war is very much on the table. That's how crazy this situa…

I don't think the term "unamerican" should be used seriously. It has no strict definition and is often used to encourage an "Us vs Them" mentality and brings to mind the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. I believe tribalism is a vestigial trait most harmful to modern humanity and it should be discouraged whenever possible. We have changed our environment faster than evolution can keep up, so we are going to have to use our…

If someone flew a plane into the White House to destroy the American government, is that anti-American?

If someone invites a mob to attack the Capitol and take the national legislature hostage, is that anti-American?

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by physicles »

sixothree wrote: post #356
shiado wrote: post #115

74 million voters. This is not going to play out well. There's really no coming back from this moment, the technocratic elite have changed American democracy forever. Edit: I mean this in the way Snowden tweeted yesterday, it will be interesting how this plays out for better or worse, but it is a monumental policy shift that will be a date marked in history books.

There have been closer elections in recent history. Why are you giving this particular one such outsized proportion? You didn't see this sort of reaction in 2000, and that was far far closer. And to be clear, this election was 306 to 232. That is considered a landslide in my book (meaning my 40+ years of living). And in percentages, you can see just how poorly Trump performed in this election - 51.4% to 46.9%. 2000 w…

This isn’t about closeness at all. It’s about ~half the country actually believing that the election was rigged. That doesn’t have precedent as far as I know.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by ng12 »

bdibs wrote: post #52
tempsy wrote: post #28

Me thinks this will have huge implications for big tech. A Pandora’s box was just opened.

That private businesses can keep people off of their properties?

Most people acknowledge that social media has an unprecedented ability to sway elections. Wouldn't it follow that allowing them to deplatform politicians is a seriously concerting form of censorship, private business or no?

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by originalvichy »

young_unixer wrote: post #290

I find This whole "incitement to violence is bad" thing to be nonsensical. Political speech is practically always incitement to violence: According to Weber, the state is a "human community that (successfully) claims the monopoly of the legitimate use of physical force within a given territory." [1] And political discussions are about what the state should do (executive decisions, laws, etc), that is, in which cases…

This is a Michael Jordan in Space Jam level stretch. Speech is also just vibrations of air and text is just electric charges on circuits.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by jlkuester7 »

Regardless of how timely (way too late???) this moderation decision is, I cannot help but feel like the social media giants have decided that they have milked this cash-cow dry and now they want to make a show of "discretion" and "responsibility" to appease the incoming powers-that-be....

Ultimately I remain convinced that the only sane way forwards is via decentralized services like https://joinmastodon.org/.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by kiawe_fire »

One side began returning home almost immediately after the situation escalated, and has since been so widely shocked by the violence that occurred that many continue to be sceptical it was even born of their movement.

The other side, through most of the year, not only didn't denounce the violence, but celebrated it as democracy in action, including one TV anchor that asked to be shown "where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful."

One political faction is being torn to rubble over violence it likely never intended (and from which no positive outcome would have been possible), which effectively allows the other side to enshrine violence with clear and obvious benefits to them.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by dionian »

obiefernandez wrote: post #25

I see that people are complaining it's too little, too late. But c'mon, there's a certain amount of appreciation due, isn't there?

It seems cowardly to me to use force to shut people down. But it's a free country and they own their platform, so i think it should be allowed. I just think it will allow for more competition for Twitter.
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